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re: Deep State Part 2: Hollywood:The spell they cast.. (pg16 Epstein = Eyes Wide Shut)

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Posted by Zephyrius
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:13 am to
I'm not saying the "enemy" has not infiltrated the Church as it clearly has but it still is Christ's earthly Church and the promise that the "gates of hell will not prevail" against it.

Do you not acknowledge that the Church has condemned masonic membership?

The "elites" have to weaken the Church's influence to ever succeed in controlling the masses...

Does the the video acknowledge a difference in earthly powers from spiritual?

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Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:17 am to
Slowly making my way through this thread.. Started the Know Your Enemy series this morning on the way to work.


good stuff, Thine! I've been missing the content/material.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:21 am to
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I'm not saying the "enemy" has not infiltrated the Church as it clearly has


I believe it was compromised centuries ago, if not from it's early days. Any new changes in the top are likely just a different sect.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:26 am to
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Boudin




This complements Cooper’s Mystery Babylon (Cooper is much longer winded, Know Your Enemy is well referenced and to the point) and HLI


HLI is posting here:

LINK

I invited him to hop in the discussion here in this Voat thread





Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:31 am to
This stuff is like advanced Calculus to me, TP; fascinating, abstract and just too much for me to comprehend.

That said, being a person of Faith and believing in Biblical *mythology* as metaphorical/symbolic representation of an Absolute Spiritual Paradigm...I would not be surprised and would expect that the manifestation of ultimate Evil (opposite of Love/Unity) would be THE most complex form of deception that could exist. And that those who serve that Evil would cloak themselves as "angels of light".

If I were a fearful individual...I'd be scared. Being that I am not...I'm pissed. When I look into the eyes of my 2 1/2 yr. old granddaughter and think about what those *&$^* are capable of....well...no better life than to serve the Truth that will at least give people and EDUCATED choice.

God speed Brother.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:36 am to
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I believe it was compromised


True Detective Season 2

Theme song:

The war was lost
The treaty signed
I was not caught
I crossed the line

I was not caught
Though many tried
I live among you Well disguised
I had to leave
My life behind
I dug some graves
You’ll never find

The story’s told
With facts and lies

I had a name
But nevermind

Never mind
Never mind
I had to leave my life behind
The story's told
With facts and lies
You own the world
So nevermind

My woman's here
My children, too
Their graves are safe
From ghosts like you
In places deep
With roots entwined

I live the life I left behind

The war was lost
The treaty signed
I was not caught
I crossed the line

I was not caught
Though many tried
I live among you
Well-disguised




Still prepping it...
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:50 am to
Damn...I love Cohen (His words and songs). My Great Granddaughter has to watch the Vid "Dance Me to the End of Love" (the one with the horses/"Scent of a Woman" dance) at least once a day. Started her at the age of 1.

Do you think Cohen is solid on the Love side? At least to the degree that any of us can be. It is my belief - given our imperfection - that minus Jesus (Spiritual Axiom of total surrender re INTENT)...we are sitting ducks for Powers that are faaarrr beyond our ability to resist.

Not that it matters re Cohen. Just curious for your opinion.

Posted by Zephyrius
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:55 am to
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I believe it was compromised centuries ago, if not from it's early days.

And I say the protestant churches have done more detriment to a moral society with its moral relativism and its 50 thousand plus churches. The "elites" can use them to strike at moral truths as effective as hollywood...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:58 am to
True Detective 2

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Last season’s intention I argued was to capture the essence of the soul’s grappling with the forces of darkness and light in a world where it seems darkness owns the day. Even a nihilistic Nietzschean Übermensch can be tamed, and the heart’s senses rekindled anew, as we witnessed Rust Cohle’s transformation and Marty’s moral cowardice. Here things get much more complex, with a variety of characters and a labyrinthine plot of crooked cops, diamonds, New age cults, human trafficking, drugs and gangs, big land deals, elite sex parties and mobster moves. The secretive, full-moon sex parties of the elite to their most obvious Northern California analogue, the infamous Bohemian Grove Club. (Although the rumors surrounding Bohemian Grove don’t involve gorgeous Eastern European women.)


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Season 2’s focus is hermetic. Each of our main characters will face the future successfully only insofar as they allow the relationships to their archetypes in the nuclear family cloud or ruin their present relations. Notions of paternity, progeny and seed dominate, with the phallus taking the center stage from last season’s anal focus. For Frank Semyon (Vince Vaughn), the ability to have children to pass on his budding mobster empire to as inheritance, to have land, is the ultimate goal, yet he finds himself impotent through erectile issues. Frank, we discover, was abused as a child, beaten and left for dead, locked in a dank basement he ponders may have actually been his tomb. As we will see with Ray, Frank is correct in his pillow talk musings, that his life is a dream, as if he is dead, all is “paper mache.” The esoteric theme for season 2 will be that this life is death, and death is entrance into the waking life.




Frank’s all-seeing eye approaches the apex of the pyramid, yet as a small-time mobster making his way, fails to reach the top, as revealed in the title sequence.

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Antigone Bezzerides (Rachel McAdams) was also abused as a child by her creepy hippy commune father’s Mansonesque vagabond cohort, snatched away for days in a VW van and molested in the woods. Hardened by suppressed abuse, locked away in her unconscious mind, Ani’s rough and tough exterior masks a voracious sexual appetite that shocks and startles her average male partners, leading to her own interest in porn as she simultaneously struggles to swat raid porn pushers, lecture her sister on sexual ethics and dismiss both her lovers on the force. Ani’s relationship to her father determines her course, as her inner anger at the molestation is placed on her father’s below lackluster parental performance. Seeking solace in bizarre new age spirituality, Ani’s father is distant and removed, like each of the other main characters. The subtle references to Carlos Castenada and the Chessani family’s preference for psychedelics by the creepy plastic surgeon suggest the inner shamanic journey, which each character will be forced to embark upon, as a contrast to last season’s outer worlds focused metaphysics.

Like Sophocles’ play, Antigone has disowned her sister and ends up a stubborn heroine just like her Greek analogue. Ani’s sister is a direct parallel to Ismene, as both docile and beautiful, serving as Ani’s foil. Like Antigone in the play, Bezzerides defies the corruption of the state to honor the name of her son through Velcoro, meaning that unlike the ancient Antigone, she exits the cave of death. The interesting question here is how she exits the cave of death, which I read as her life previous to the conclusion of season 2. Only by facing the corrupt elite at the Eyes Wide Shut style orgy and gaining the information necessary to expose the criminal network could this be done, and in turn, that could only be achieved by posing as a prostitute herself, taking ecstasy and regressing to her childhood self where she sees the face of her molestor. The drug trip forces Ani to embark on an inner journey set to a dreamy Disney-like score that suggests a possible mind control programming that recalls something out of Fantasia, The Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland.



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Having explored the characters’ psyches, we now look at the esoteric backdrop to the show’s conspiracy-laced themes. Quite clearly the Bohemian Club and possibly even ritual sex magick are in the background, though this is only hinted at. The logo for the elite sex party features twin peaks with a moon in the background, and while we only see sex and drugs at the party, the land developer explicitly mentions that deals are best done “on a full moon.” The scene ends with a full moon visible as the camera fades, suggesting the possibility of cultic meaning behind the timing of the orgy. The locale of the party and Ani’s Guerneville Commune come close to the locale of Bohemian Grove, and the overt references to Twin Peaks impel us to remember the “owls are not what they seem.” (The owl of Bohemian Grove, that is). In fact, episode one shows “Mulholland Drive’s” street sign, as well as Ray talking into his audio recorder, channeling Agent Cooper’s disembodied Diane.









Monarch butterflies in this case are significant in reference to Paul Woodruff, as a representation of the process of transformation. As is often the case, for all 4 principal characters, trauma-based mind control appears, as all 4 are imprisoned to the “system” they serve, ultimately in their own minds.





We also see this Vow of Silence symbol at the beginning when Colin Farrell’s character (Detective Velcoro) is about to conduct a murder of his own:



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Subtle, but notice that the profane (who is in the dark) is being illuminated (by the light above). He is almost killed for this (see gif below)





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Piltor, Bezzeride's, Mayor Chessani, and his father all knew each other back in the day and hung out at the Chessani's Lodge.


5 men in a circle (reference season 1 info)...
Notice in the series of images from the shooting, there are 4 masks on the wall and 1 on the shooter...

This ties the first and second season to one another (with season 2 discussing the folks on the higher end of the system/pyramid)








LINK

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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:15 am to
True Detective Season 2

vanity fair

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Is This Creepy Real-Life Secret Society the Key to True Detective Season 2?

by JOANNA ROBINSON
JULY 6, 2015 5:21 AM


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But if it’s just occult mystery and bread-crumb trails you want, True Detective Season 2 has that in spades. And three episodes into this season, evidence is stacking up that in order to get to the bottom of the death of Ben Caspere and the rotten, interconnected corruption of Vinci, California, we’re going to have to look to Northern California and a real-life secret society that exists there to this day: the Bohemian Grove. Tucked away in the redwoods of Sonoma County, the mysterious summertime retreat boasts a roster of powerful, land-your-private-plane-at-a-tiny-local-airport, elite members and has prompted curious speculation and frustrated investigations ever since it was founded over 130 years ago. Here are five ways Pizzolatto has made a strong connection to the Bohemian Grove and how it could help unlock the mysteries of True Detective Season 2.




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Location, Location, Location: Any sharp-eared Northern Californian will have noticed that the tiny town of Guerneville (population 4,534) was mentioned twice in episode 2. Once in connection with Antigone’s father’s cult, The Good People (”Commune around Guerneville in the late 70s, 80s. Hippie shite.“), and again as the last-known location for the missing girl she’s trying to track down (”The call came from a Guerneville address,” her partner said). Sorry, Paul, I don’t think it’s Guerneville’s gay-friendly reputation we should be looking out for. But guess what’s just 12 minutes from Guerneville? That’s right, the Bohemian Grove. The missing girl’s co-workers told Ani in Episode 1 that she left to work the “club circuit” somewhere in Sonoma County. The Bohemian Grove hires young men and women to staff their summer gatherings every year so this could be where the missing woman with obvious ties to Ani’s father has disappeared to.




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Animal Imagery: One of the more startling physical features of the Bohemian Grove is a 40-foot owl statue that looms over the lake. The Owl Shrine serves as the backdrop of the yearly Cremation of Care ceremony. At one point in the Grove’s history, Walter Cronkite reportedly recorded the voice of the owl for the annual ceremony. According to famed conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who infiltrated the Bohemian Grove in 2000 with a camera crew, the Cremation of Care ceremony is an occult event honoring the ancient god Moloch. However while documenting Jones’s investigation for his The Secret Rulers of the World series, journalist Jon Ronson interviewed comedian and former Grove attendee Harry Shearer, who said the ceremony was just harmless theatrics. But either way, a replica of the footage Jones captured of attendees dressed in robes and burning an effigy at the foot of the giant stone owl would make for striking television that might even rival the Yellow King in Carcosa.


During Meryl Streep pep talk...





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voat.co

from thread:

Marin residents discuss Michael Aquino and Novato Nephtys cult, Corrupt Family Court, Children removed from good parents and placed with molesters and abusers. "I think EVERYONE is grappling with the whys of what the court in this county is doing. Why are children being taken from good parents and given to abusive parents--thereby creating a new generation of victims/abusers? Money? Favoritism? Corruption? Social engineering? Bribes? Federal monetary incentives? All of the above? The number one question EVERYONE asks when they hear about family court problems is--WHY ARE THE COURTS DOING THIS at the obvious expense of the children?" https://www.topix.com/forum/city/novato-ca/THTIC3NGHPU63BK8C/p19



Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:24 am to
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Damn...I love Cohen (His words and songs).


Not sure. I think it is wrong to assume that Deep State is homogenous

A theme in the “know your enemy series” is to embed yourself in something you wish to destroy from the inside “fifth column tactics”

This makes it difficult to perceive who is “good” or “bad”. I stay open minded and pay attention to things to try to figure it out. I point out observations in these threads.

I have a similar conflict with regards to Pink Floyd (will get there)
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Zephyrius
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:47 am to
In case you or the "series" is prosecuting the Church you probably should understand the following...

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Furthermore, the higher degrees of Masonry’s Appendant Bodies are frankly blasphemous. The Royal Arch Degree of the York Rite reveals that the true name of God is JAH-BUL-ON, a fusion of the Hebrew Jaweh (Yaweh) with the names of pagan gods Baal and Osiris. The Scottish Rite’s eighteenth degree (Rose Croix) reinterprets the Cross and its I.N.R.I inscription as pagan symbols. A candidate for the thirtieth degree (Knight Kadosh) must trample the papal tiara crying: “Down with Imposture!” He vows to propagate light and overthrow “superstition, fanaticism, imposture, and intolerance,” qualities implicitly identified with Christianity, especially Catholic Christianity. The best Catholic apologetics work against the Lodge is Christianity and American Freemasonry(Ignatius Press) by William J. Whalen.

From the time Freemasonry penetrated Europe, the Catholic Church has watched and warned against it. In 1738, Pope Clement XII condemned the Craft for its reliance on mere natural virtue while ignoring Christ’s unique role as Savior. Pope Clement also denounced the rash, blood-curdling oaths demanded of members to protect trivial Lodge secrets. Ironically, those precious secrets are anything but secret. All the details have been revealed numerous times, for example in ex-Mason Walton Hannah’s Darkness Visible: A Christian Appraisal of Freemasonry.

Pope Clement decreed that Catholics who joined the Masons were excommunicated with reconciliation reserved to the pope. Unfortunately, this had little effect because the rule was not published in every country, nor was it taken seriously where it was published. Eight subsequent popes had to repeat the message, most forcefully Leo XIII in his 1884 encyclical, Humanum genus. Denouncing the Lodge as “a deceitful and crafty enemy,” Pope Leo declared: “Let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever join the Masonic sect, if he values his Catholic name and his eternal salvation as he ought to value them.” This stern prohibition was included in the 1917 Code of Canon Law.





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Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:01 am to
Yep. Like Sgt. Joe Friday would say..."just the facts, Mam".

Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:51 am to
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HLI is posting here:

Legit?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:59 pm to
Seems to be. I followed his post history for a while before engaging

Excerpts:

Here, Let Me Crush the Last Hope You Had That Trump Will End Pizzagate Child Trafficking (pizzagate)

[–] HighLevelInsider 1 points (+1|-0) 17 days ago
You should always have suspicions about any anon, and judge everyone based on what they say, not what they claim to be. People LARP on 4chan every day, but it's rare that one of them posts verifiable, viable intelligence.

[–] HighLevelInsider 2 points (+2|-0) 17 days ago
I'm familiar with ClosedSociety404's original work on reddit, but you're missing the real reason Trump can't drain the swamp: the economy is dependent on CIA drug-dealing. If he drains the swamp, they drain the US dollar's status as reserve currency.

That's why economic alternatives like the space elevator are utterly crucial to any discussion of swamp-draining. The swamp exists because it functions. Unspeakably evil, but there's bread on the shelves.

It doesn't have to be this way, but it will be until we start demanding a viable alternative.

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[–] HighLevelInsider 2 points (+2|-0) 17 days ago (edited 17 days ago)
If I had to guess, I'd say Senate Anon got that from me. It will help if you read the link I provided.

If CIA black ops are funding the government's annual budget, we can just cut 20% of the budget. End all of the wars and shrink the military, game over.
This is precisely the problem. The economy is propped up by the petrodollar, enforced by the military. The dollar would collapse if it isn't simultaneously buoyed by the confidence of coming 25% growth.

But CIA black ops don't fund the government. They don't pay Social Security checks or Medicare payouts. CIA blacks ops fund Wall St. and banksters.
They really do. The money is laundered through the banks. Look into HSBC.

[–] HighLevelInsider 0 points (+0|-0) 17 days ago
Our manufacturing has been hollowed out, we have massive trade deficits, crumbling infrastructure, and $20 trillion in debt. What are you foreseeing happens when these countries start selling their oil in gold-backed currency or yuan? That's what happened with Gaddafi.

[–] HighLevelInsider 1 points (+1|-0) 16 days ago
For the average American, it would be something like an economic end of the world. If you believe the government statistics, we have trade deficits of $500 billion dollars, or almost 20% of our trade. In reality, we can probably double that due to the arms smuggling and drug-running of the CIA.

In other words, a 40% drop in the standard of living of the average American if the dollar goes down. And that's before China starts to muscle us, imposing tariffs to utterly destroy the industry we have left, and the financial sector shifts elsewhere. And that's before you consider things like civil unrest or outright civil war breaking out.

This is not a scenario we are willing to accept and say "life goes on." The bankers have done this too often, and they're going to stop.

[–] HighLevelInsider 0 points (+0|-0) 16 days ago
I'm obviously not defending the CIA or the wars. You simply aren't considering what I said because it conflicts with libertarian talking points you've been fed. With a conservative estimate, the US is bringing in something like $1-2 trillion of wealth per year through illegitimate means.

You seek to replace this with hand-waiving about budget cuts. Cutting that much money out of the economy would destroy millions of jobs, put disabled and elderly people on the street, and cut basic services like healthcare and schools. Those are the things that lead to economic collapse, starvation, civil unrest, and the like.

And your suggestion that HSBC pays for Social Security is still hilarious
"HSBC's Mexican operations moved $7bn into the US operations, for instance, which the Senate was told was tied to drug money."

LINK

$7 billion dollars from one bank in one country.

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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:02 pm to
[–] ThinePreparedAni 1 points (+1|-0) 16 days ago (edited 16 days ago)
"Did you guys find the reddit group yet?"

There a few discussion threads there. Please clarify/link a specific one you may be referencing.

"There's 24 pages there"

Sorry. The information presented is hard to distill into inquiry (but I will try)

Can you provide more background on your organization, "3"?

Any planned intervention (as alluded to in your AMAs) by 3 into current geopolitical affairs? Timing? Rationale?

Do the work of Pink Floyd (specifically The Division Bell and the internet riddle associated with it called Publius Enigma) and Stanley Kubrick tell/warn of the themes you address in your AMAs?

Are we (humans) headed towards an event/happening that will fundamentally changes us? It appears to me that TPTB are be grooming us for the birth of AI/the Singularity. Do you or "3" have a "long view" / strong opinion about modernity and technology making us "less human"?

Were humans able to volitinally manipulate consciousness in remote antiquity? If yes, can this still be carried out? vs. how and why did we lose or suppress this knowledge? How does one seek said skills to avoid being manipulated and acquire skills to benefit/serve others (regarding consciousness)?

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[–] HighLevelInsider [S] 0 points (+0|-0) 16 days ago (edited 16 days ago)
New American System on reddit.

Can you provide more background on your organization, "3"?
We've been around for around 3000 years, you can spot us around the time of Plato.

Any planned intervention (as alluded to in your AMAs) by 3 into current geopolitical affairs?
Yes.

Timing?
By 2024 at the latest, but leaning toward sooner.

Rationale?
The world is run by Satanists. That needs to stop.


Do the work of Pink Floyd (specifically The Division Bell and the internet riddle associated with it called Publius Enigma) and Stanley Kubrick tell/warn of the themes you address in your AMAs?
The Wall describes the crushing dehumanization under the current regime. Kubrick's depictions of sex parties are quite accurate. Bill Cooper's work on 2001: A Space Odyssey will shed a lot of light.

Do you or "3" have a "long view" / strong opinion about modernity and technology making us "less human"?
Already happening, and they are trying to get people to accept that automation means there will be no work left for many, justifying depopulation. We want the opposite, technology to re-humanize you, give you time with your family and friends, reading, music, and the like.

Were humans able to volitinally manipulate consciousness in remote antiquity?
Yes.

If yes, can this still be carried out?
Yes. Edward Bernays might provide some insight, as will understanding the 100th monkey effect.

how and why did we lose or suppress this knowledge?
A cataclysm, probably related to the Younger Dryas. Read flood myths, realize this really happened when a comet melted massive ice caps, sending tsunamis across the world.

How does one seek said skills to avoid being manipulated and acquire skills to benefit/serve others (regarding consciousness)?
Read Julian Jaynes. Your consciousness is dependent on others until you understand and apply the material in that book. The study of logic, particularly fallacies, and rhetoric, will help you avoid being duped by bad ideas.

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Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:11 pm to
Strong stuff. We (our Government) are on a one-way street...driving in the wrong lane, but progressing just the same. Minus a collision. Of course...flip the Paradigm...and the street 'designation' changes, and we are just going. Somewhere. Pretty fast.
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:18 pm to
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just too much for me to comprehend.
Poliboard mantra.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:21 pm to
Yep, Tex...guess we'll be like this year's Tigers; on the field and in the game...hoping it gets better.

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:38 pm to
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We are just getting started. It is going to get a lot weirder


When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. HST
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