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re: Debt increases by president
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Then Trump would have been fired.
No you would have been fired and taken off the govy support if your "CONservatives" woupdlt have gotten in the wayv
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:24 am to SDVTiger
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how do you save the business?
Fire 97% of govy jobs/agencies and increase tariffs
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:28 am to SDVTiger
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Fire 97% of govy jobs/agencies and increase tariffs
Not enough spending cuts and the loss of income + tariff impacts would hurt our economy and decrease tax revenue in kind, negating lots of the savings.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:29 am to SDVTiger
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Fire 97% of govy jobs/agencies and increase tariffs
Don’t mention tariffs to Roger. He hates American manufacturing and thinks they need to learn to code.
He wants to surrender all manufacturing to slave labor countries.
He says that is better for Americans.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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tariff impacts would hurt our economy
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:30 am to SDVTiger
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No you would have been fired and taken off the govy support if your "CONservatives" woupdlt have gotten in the wayv
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:30 am to blueboxer1119
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He hates American manufacturing and thinks they need to learn to code.
Or they could just develop their skills within manufacturing to rise above worthless and get the ample skilled manufacturing jobs
Or they can learn a trade. Huge demand in the trades.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Or they could just develop their skills within manufacturing to rise above worthless and get the ample skilled manufacturing jobs
I dont think these guys are management or skilled material. If so, this problem would have solved itself long ago.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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“I’ve said to Congress, I will never sign a bill like this again,” Mr. Trump said, calling the legislative process that produced it “ridiculous.” Hours earlier, the president had threatened to veto the bill and all but guarantee a government shutdown when funding would have expired at midnight Friday.
I see my memory was correct. I was not a fan of this. He caved, period. His reasoning was that he was trying to build bridges and work with the establishment. Huge mistake, I remember Rush warning him not to do it and pleading with him that trying to mend fences and work with these people was a mistake. Trump had a lot of nefarious, bad intentioned people whispering in his ear.
My hope is that Trump has learned his lesson. I think having a President who has been torched and openly betrayed by the establishment is a good thing. Its for this reason im supporting him. Noone is trying to convince you to support him or even vote for him, Roger. Dont pretend though that Trump isnt a best viable option for a lot of people with solid reasoning.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
You know what's going to help our economic and governmental debt problems?
Devolving our private sector economy and decreasing our private sector economic output. Brilliant idea.
Devolving our private sector economy and decreasing our private sector economic output. Brilliant idea.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:35 am to scottydoesntknow
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I see my memory was correct. I was not a fan of this. He caved, period. His reasoning was that he was trying to build bridges and work with the establishment. Huge mistake,
Strange, he keeps getting re-dos and the benefit of the doubt, while people under him are "fired" at first mistake.
Hes the problem. He is no leader, offers no leadership or direction. When he makes mistakes, its the other guys fault, not his.
Trump rewarded the "deep state" with trillions in funding. You folks just cannot understand that.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Strange, he keeps getting re-dos and the benefit of the doubt, while people under him are "fired" at first mistake. Hes the problem. He is no leader, offers no leadership or direction. When he makes mistakes, its the other guys fault, not his.
Dont vote for him then. Nobody is forcing you to do anything
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Or they could just develop their skills within manufacturing to rise above worthless and get the ample skilled manufacturing jobs
What difference does developing skills make when those jobs can be outsourced for fractions of the cost? ….which will destroy American manufacturing forever.
What happens to American jobs when American manufacturing is ruined by the inability to compete with slave labor?
How is the economy effected by such a huge job loss?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump rewarded the "deep state" with trillions in funding. You folks just cannot understand that.
So did your Congressmen. Hope they are on your shite list too
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:43 am to scottydoesntknow
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So did your Congressmen. Hope they are on your shite list too
They are, and I rarely vote the Incumbent.
But until the Republican party has actual leadership, what results do you expect?
Its adrift and moving left.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:44 am to blueboxer1119
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What difference does developing skills make when those jobs can be outsourced for fractions of the cost?
Skilled manufacturing jobs cannot.
We are the 2nd largest manufacturer in the world and are the only country that has the combination of producing higher-priced goods at this volume.
There is plenty of opportunity in manufacturing in the US. What we don't have is lots of opportunity for the lowest-level manufacturing, which would be a net negative on our economy and society.
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What happens to American jobs when American manufacturing is ruined by the inability to compete with slave labor?
Slave labor can't perform skilled manufacturing, so this isn't a concern.
Slave labor works in manufacturing that's not economically efficient for a modern economy like the US.
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How is the economy effected by such a huge job loss?
The cost savings and economic efficiency allows our dollars to flow into more productive areas, which is a huge reason why our economy is the best and most advanced in the world.
You force those dollars to subsidize effectively welfare programs at the bottom and we lose our edge and devolve economically.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:46 am to blueboxer1119
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What happens to American jobs when American manufacturing is ruined by the inability to compete with slave labor?
What happens when American manufacturing can't compete with any foreign labor? Trump's 2024 policy is universal tariffs on all imports, not just countries with "slave labor".
You need to get right with this issue or your stupidity will give you a huge tax increase, lower GDP, and a lower standard of living.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:52 am to blueboxer1119
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What happens to American jobs when American manufacturing is ruined by the inability to compete with slave labor?
Youre wanting to slow down the economy to protect people who refuse to better themselves.
On a related note, if you want to end immigration from South of the border, locate your mfg plants there
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Skilled manufacturing jobs cannot.
Yes they most certainly can.
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There is plenty of opportunity in manufacturing in the US.
Because of tariffs. Remove tariffs and lose this opportunity. Business owners want to make money. If they can reduce their COGS, they will. Plain and simple.
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Slave labor can't perform skilled manufacturing, so this isn't a concern
Link?
So your belief is no skilled manufacturing can happen outside the US?
If skilled manufacturing does happen outside the US, do you think it will cost more or less than it does domestically?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:56 am to blueboxer1119
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Remove tariffs and lose this opportunity.
Your economics are ghetto.
Its a form of socialism. Helping woke corporations and taxing the working class.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 9:58 am
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