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re: Dark hearted "Christian Zionism" is heretical.

Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:23 pm to
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You should worry more about the slaughter and displacement of Christians in Syria and Iraq caused by wars lobbied for by Netenyahu this century.

American Jewish inspired wars are always hell on Christians.

So what's your endgame?

Side with the people doing the killing?

Israel is there now if you like it or not, there are no advantages to trading them for the ones actually murdering Christians.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:24 pm to
The Muslims doing the killing of Christians- Daesh - were funded and enabled by Israel/ Mossad in conjunction with the CIA
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:27 pm to
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I supposed those Jewish servicemen were American citizens? Are you saying they were Israelis?

You and I both know that many Jewish Americans see themselves as Israeli as well.

Its just a fact.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Daesh

Ah yes what Arabs call ISIS...

Of course Hamas was killing Christians in Gaza long before ISIS.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6640 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:29 pm to
Well. Put an asterisk by your numbers then.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:31 pm to
That’s funny because Hamas’ stance on Chrisitans recognizes their right to exist and their integral role in Palestinian society
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42400 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:32 pm to
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there will be no Hamas.


Wrong

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Jews lived peacefully with Muslims in the late 19th and early 20th centuries until the illegal occupation began in 1948.


Wrong again.

Your ignorance is stunning.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42400 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:33 pm to
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That’s funny because Hamas’ stance on Chrisitans recognizes their right to exist and their integral role in Palestinian society


More horse shite.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:33 pm to
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That’s funny because Hamas’ stance on Chrisitans recognizes their right to exist and their integral role in Palestinian society


You know as well as anyone that Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels.

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Rami Khader Ayyad was a Palestinian Christian activist kidnapped and killed by unknown assailants in Gaza City on 7 October 2007. He was the manager of the only Christian bookstore in the Gaza Strip called The Teacher's Bookshop as well as the director of the Protestant Holy Bible Society.


They hold the Christian population hostage and control their movements and speech.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Well. Put an asterisk by your numbers then.

Wait you disagree?

I'm shocked!
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6640 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:34 pm to
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supporting Israel over Hamas


Hamas represents 1.5% of the population of Gaza.



Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6640 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:35 pm to
Wait. Your literally saying we should credit Jewish American ww2 service to Israel, which didn't even exist at the time.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Wrong again. Your ignorance is stunning.


You’re right I gave the Zionist militias cough terrorist groups cough in post Ottoman Levant too much credit

They waged a guerlilla war against Palestinians . They’ve been doing this shite for over 100 years
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Wait. Your literally saying we should credit Jewish American ww2 service to Israel, which didn't even exist at the time.

They heavily lobbied Truman in 1947, and have ever since.
Specifically Jewish American veterans.

Its really well documented
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6640 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:54 pm to
I just want to clarify im not advocating for the Muslims. Im simply pointing out that the whole Israel thing is really bad theology and is putting a lot of gullible Christians on the wrong path. Christians are our brothers, be they Mesionic Jews or Arabs or whomever. Not jews. They are not our brothers. Nor do they see us as brothers.

And for any Jewish reader, I have no animosity for Jews. None. My God was a Jew. Its just there is no faith based connection, that's all. I don't assign any special status to Jews. I dont assign any extra blame to jews. To me, jews are in the same boat as all non Christians.

And I believe everyone has a right to defend themselves. But there are lines that shouldn't be crossed and proportionality. And I don't see Arabs or Jews or any race as subhuman.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6258 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:00 pm to
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I just want to clarify im not advocating for the Muslims. Im simply pointing out that the whole Israel thing is really bad theology and is putting a lot of gullible Christians on the wrong path. Christians are our brothers, be they Mesionic Jews or Arabs or whomever. Not jews. They are not our brothers. Nor do they see us as brothers.

Agreed with that.

I do believe we do need to love Jewish people, but we show that love by being a witness for Christ to them.

I do think the politics aspect is different, Israel is a nation, I think as Christians we can determine if Israel as a secular nation is worth being an ally with just like Germany.

Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Israel are all nations with no friends.

That makes them valuable to the US.
But thats a geopolitical view not a religious view.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8190 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:19 pm to
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They waged a guerlilla war against Palestinians . They’ve been doing this shite for over 100 years


Being from Utah, you should understand the resistance of the Utes vs Morman's and other encroachers, including other Tribes.

Who would you say Israel is today? The Utes, the Morman's or competing native tribes, who the Utes originally battled against? They all can claim that Utah is their god given right. In the end, and understanding history, it is the ones who rule in the present as the ones we recognize.

All land has been conquered by someone at sometime.

Like it or not, we live in the present and Israel is governed by the Jews.

You claim to know the Zionists and their goals. Good.

I will tell PDJT to call you next time he meets with Netanyahu since you are the expert and is sure PDJT is not aware of the Zionist plot to take over the world.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
733 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:22 pm to
Don't try to dress up your hate in a Christian veneer. Just admit you hate Jewish people and at least have the courage of your convictions.
Posted by geaux4tigers
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2006
972 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Do you prefer the Muslims take it over?

Shall we start a new crusade and take it over?


What are we taking over?
Posted by MadQfrog
Rural VA
Member since May 2021
853 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:27 pm to
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What do we get out of the relationship? Nothing . We get spied on, we face the resentment from the global community for unilateral blind support for an apartheid state / pariah. It’s the worst alliance ever


US would not be a superpower without Israel. Israel is the beating heart of the US as a world power. Without Israelis blessing and its intelligence apparatus, we would not be where we are today.
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