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Dan Bongino podcast, soldier thinks he’s going to Hell
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:09 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:09 am
I was listening to a Dan Bongino podcast and a segment was about the need for hard violent men to protect us. He specifically spoke about war hardened veterans and how many of them have seen too many things they can never forget. One in particular wrote Dan an email and he feared he’d never spend the afterlife with his daughter because of the things he’d done in war.
It got me to thinking, how will soldiers be judged for war killings? Is there such a thing as a just war? Is a soldier who takes part in an unjust war a murderer?
Thoughts?
It got me to thinking, how will soldiers be judged for war killings? Is there such a thing as a just war? Is a soldier who takes part in an unjust war a murderer?
Thoughts?
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:10 am to Revelator
Where the heart is.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:11 am to Revelator
Man has been killing man since the beginning of man....
It will be OK.
It will be OK.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:12 am to Revelator
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Is there such a thing as a just war?
Six conditions must be satisfied for a war to be considered just:
The war must be for a just cause.
The war must be lawfully declared by a lawful authority.
The intention behind the war must be good.
All other ways of resolving the problem should have been tried first.
There must be a reasonable chance of success.
The means used must be in proportion to the end that the war seeks to achieve.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:16 am to Revelator
Soldiers have to fight when their government commands it, it’s part of being a soldier and a patriot, personally I think God holds those responsible that run the Government. In years gone by, I would have said the US fights just causes, maybe that’s naive. Today, thanks to the likes of Cheney, the Bushes, and Obamas, I would think any war that the state jumps in is as unjust as any dictatorship run country, still the blame doesn’t fall on the soldier.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:16 am to Revelator
If the soldier talking to Bongino is worried about judgment of his soul: Saul of Tarsus
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This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:27 am to TheHarahanian
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If the soldier talking to Bongino is worried about judgment of his soul: Saul of Tarsus /end
Your point would be true if this soldier has a conversion experience like Saul, but he readily admitted at wanting Palestinian kids to die from Israel's bombings and said his bitterness and hatred for them only gets worse as he gets older. That’s not repentance
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:31 am to Revelator
The people that support, pay for, vote, and back evil leaders will be more responsible before God than the violence their respective soldiers unleash
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:32 am to Revelator
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Is a soldier who takes part in an unjust war a murderer?
No. Most of the time, soldiers don't get to decide to take part in unjust wars.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:39 am to VADawg
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No. Most of the time, soldiers don't get to decide to take part in unjust wars.
Since there is presently no draft, solders are volunteering to fight
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:40 am to Revelator
God says there's redemption up till your last day. All you have to do is ask for it and it's yours.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:41 am to GreenRockTiger
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Six conditions must be satisfied for a war to be considered just:
The war must be for a just cause.
The war must be lawfully declared by a lawful authority.
The intention behind the war must be good.
All other ways of resolving the problem should have been tried first.
There must be a reasonable chance of success.
The means used must be in proportion to the end that the war seeks to achieve.
"I shall never surrender nor retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & every thing dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch*" - William Barrett Travis
* unless there is no reasonable chance of success
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:51 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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God says there's redemption up till your last day. All you have to do is ask for it and it's yours.
In theory, you are correct. But, a person doesn’t simply believe whenever he wants. He has to be drawn by the Holy Spirit first.
Secondly, we don’t know when we are going to die, so a person can’t simply wait till his death bed and repent.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:51 am to Revelator
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conversion experience like Saul
Well exactly. If Saul had been struck blind and that was the end of the story, we might have never heard of him.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:02 pm to Revelator
God is omniscient... he knew there would be bad people running around.
Some of us he sent to this Earth to kill the bad people.
Some of us he sent to this Earth to kill the bad people.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:02 pm to Revelator
Thou shalt not kill. If you aren't saving the life of someone else or yourself, you are making a conscious decision to kill. You can go through mental gymnastics about a just war to make yourself feel better. Which war other than WW2 was just? Iraq? No. Afghanistan? No. Korea? No. Vietnam? No. WW1? No.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:12 pm to Revelator
Jesus told the man hanging on the cross that he would walk in heaven with him that day. He forgave a man that hung on the cross and had no means of making things right on earth. Our actions can not save us, only God’s grace.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:14 pm to Houstiger
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Thou shalt not kill.
quote:
If you aren't saving the life of someone else or yourself
Which is it? If "Thou shalt not kill" is absolute, then killing to save another isn't justified. In reality, "Thou shalt not murder" is a better translation.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:14 pm to wryder1
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Jesus told the man hanging on the cross that he would walk in heaven with him that day. He forgave a man that hung on the cross and had no means of making things right on earth.
Right. But most people don’t have the luxury of making death bed conversions
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:28 pm to Houstiger
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Thou shalt not kill.
The correct translation is murder...biblical authors knew nations would rise against nation time and time again
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