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Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:30 pm to
Good article on asymptomatics and viral load

One take away is that masks reduce viral load. Seems obvious.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

One take away is that masks reduce viral load. Seems obvious.


Except that's not the takeaway at all.

quote:

And in scrutinizing the data on outbreaks one day, she noticed what might be a pattern


One person observing "reports" does not lead to a "takeaway."

If asymptomatic people have such a small viral load that they are not even "sick," then there's not much need to wear a mask to reduce the viral load to the point that a person can or cannot be infected in casual contact (assuming that is even true).
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:49 pm to
The places we are being tasked with masks are counter to logic.

I’m not going to be standing next to someone in the grocery store for 30 minutes.

So they’re either lying to us about social distancing’s effectiveness or mask’s effectiveness or both.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:55 pm to
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One person observing "reports" does not lead to a "takeaway."
The article is very clear that research is occurring at light speed, nothing is certain and we learn new things daily.

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One person observing "reports" does not lead to a "takeaway."
That was MY takeaway.

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If asymptomatic people have such a small viral load that they are not even "sick," then there's not much need to wear a mask to reduce the viral load to the point that a person can or cannot be infected in casual contact (assuming that is even true).
I think you have it backwards. I took it as saying that masks reduce viral load - and infections at a lower viral load are more likely to be asymptomatic.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:56 pm to
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I’m not going to be standing next to someone in the grocery store for 30 minutes.
But the cashier might come in contact with many infected people per day.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:58 pm to
Every cashier in the country has a shield between them and the customers in the store.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95669 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

One take away is that masks reduce viral load.


Maybe. Maybe not. Is there some science there where we measure the volume of particles being breathed through the mask (and without) and measuring the difference?

In fact, since viruses are smaller than the pores in any of these masks, as an aerosol, the only thing the mask is likely to trap is moisture. Of course, it does cause you to re-breathe CO2, so you likely do reabsorb some droplets with viruses, but that is both:

1. Speculative, and
2. Unverified by, you know, the "scientific method"

So, just as they're all speculating, supposing, assuming, etc., about the benefits of dirty dew rags and bandanas as being a prophylaxis against spreading a viral disease, I can just as validly assume it is utter horseshite without seeing something that is in the proximity of the neighborhood of being a reasonable distance from the zip code of science.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 5:55 pm to
Only posting because I don’t like the post count
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:23 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/















New Cases by State


New Deaths by State


7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1447 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:31 pm to
Deaths are about to head back down. Guessing that happens next week. Hospitalizations are down almost 10% WOW.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:36 pm to
COVID is over. The southern states hit their spike and are over it.

Everything after this is hysteria.

Hospitals are not being overwhelmed. Cancelling football is virtue signaling.

We are not a free people.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:35 am to
Problem is shutting down is what caused this second spike.

Places like California tried to avoid the virus and failed miserably.
Posted by Volsfan82169
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Aug 2016
3866 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:28 pm to
Florida numbers really down today. Only 4100 new cases.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:33 pm to
Always low on Monday. Trending down though. Expecting around 7,500 tomorrow. If less, a good sign. If more, depends on the number.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1447 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:46 pm to
Hope it's not that high, would be a huge bump over last Tuesday. I'm guessing somewhere closer to 5k, maybe even a shade below.

Fridays have become the big data day over the last several weeks. Data Dump Tuesday seems to have lessened quite a bit since the beginning of July.
Posted by Volsfan82169
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Aug 2016
3866 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:47 pm to
If I remember correctly, last Monday was around 5500, so Monday to Monday trending well.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:48 pm to
Couldn't remember last Tuesday. Most of the week was in the 7,000's. One day at 8,500. A bit less than that would be nice.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1447 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:50 pm to
Something I noticed last night while poking around COVID Tracking data...the %Positive number is now bogus. Several states where the number of tests = the number of positives. Then, looking at Texas, their positivity has gone upwards of 33%+ because their testing is 20% of what it was last week. Something weird going on with the testing numbers, %Positivity is substantially lower than what is being reported. It also explains the big fall off in national testing numbers.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1447 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:53 pm to
4752 reported in FL last Monday, 5446 last Tuesday. Topped out at 8502 on Saturday.

Your point still stands, 12.5% drop WOW.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40868 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:01 pm to
Yes there are data issues going on right now for sure.

Have been since the beginning.
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