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re: Curt Cobain - Homicide
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:30 pm to SouthernHog
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:30 pm to SouthernHog

Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:54 pm to Kjnstkmn
And WTF would be the motive? Yeah, technically ANYTHING is possible. But this is asinine.
I'll give you this, his note always felt a little odd. He hadn't felt the joy of music "for too many years" when they only hit it big 2.5 years prior? Strange.
But nobody would risk drawing attention by firing a gun and writing a note- sooooo much easier and risk-free to merely force an overdose and then walk away.
* your intentional misspelling of the first name makes it even more difficult to take your arse seriously.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:56 pm to SouthernHog
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Alice in Chains were always better
STP and Soundgarden.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:57 pm to SouthernHog
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I just think they're overrated and there were better bands that came out of Seattle. AIC, Soundgarden, Faith No More. Heck even liberal Pearl Jam were better
Faith No More were not Seattle, but yes- they were incredible and I still have love for them.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:00 pm to SouthernHog
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Alice in Chains were always better
And the Melvins! K, this isn't political. I'll stop.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:02 pm to LatherZap
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I'll give you this, his note always felt a little odd. He hadn't felt the joy of music "for too many years" when they only hit it big 2.5 years prior? Strange.
The note is also in two different handwritings. The part where he talks about wanting to step away from music is Kurt's, the part where it talks about suicide is someone else's.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:12 pm to AlterEd
Calm down, honey. I was just (semi-joshingly) pointing out that it always has been a homicide. Not disputing anything.
You’re still pretty. Nobody is taking anything away from you.
Not everything has to be a fight.
You’re still pretty. Nobody is taking anything away from you.
Not everything has to be a fight.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:18 pm to Kjnstkmn
Who benefited?
Dave Grohl
Courtney Love
For starters.
Now I wonder who killed Taylor Hawkins.
Dave Grohl
Courtney Love
For starters.
Now I wonder who killed Taylor Hawkins.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:33 pm to Kjnstkmn
People have questioned Kurt's death since 1994. His marriage with Courtney was pretty rocky. A lot of people questioned her influence on him. Also, she had her own band, Hole. Their album, Live Through This, was released the same week as Kurt's death. The bassist for Courtney's band (last name Pfaff) died the same year as Kurt. Both were drug addicts, though she had recently gotten sober, allegedly, and had gone back home to the midwest. She died during a trip back to WA to get all of her stuff. She was together with Hole for one album and one tour, I believe, and things didn't go that well, even though she was a great musician. She and Kurt were friends, shared music ideas, and talked philosophy. People around them said there was no romantic connection but Courtney was very jealous and made it known.
The narrative around Kurt's death has never sat well with people that looked into the details. There have been rumors for over 30 years that Courtney played a role in his death. There are some fan-made documentaries on youtube that are interesting and worth the time to watch on a rainy day.
Nevermind and In Utero were both fantastic albums. Nirvana was part of what may have been the greatest year in rock history - 1991. The list of albums released that year is nothing short of incredible. Grunge produced the two best MTV Unplugged shows ever with Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Overall, Grunge doesn't get the credit it deserves. These were good bands, often playing in Drop-D tuning and the best of them had the world's best drummers and best vocalists, with only a few notable exceptions being outside of the grunge genre, like Neil Peart from Rush, on drums.
Heroin took quite a few people from the grunge era. It's not hard to see how Kurt lost his way, got overwhelmed, and took an early exit. It's also plausible that foul play was involved. Some think he was on the verge of breaking Nirvana apart, for his own sanity, thinking the fame, money, attention, and pressure was a negative influence. Remember, a substantial part of the Grunge vibe was being in music for the sake of being in music, not for purely commercial interests. Some speculated that Courtney felt this would put a stop to her gravy train and decided that Kurt was worth more to her if he was dead, rather than being married to the guy that broke up Nirvana and decided to live isolated from the fame and the fans. Some felt she believed that her career would fade away if Kurt broke up Nirvana, because she was tethered to him.
Many people in music have questioned Courtney Love's talent and ability to front a band. Her band did put out some good songs, though. "Violet" and "Doll Parts" were two, early, good ones, from Live Through This, with lyrics like, "when they get what they want, and they never want it again...go on take everything, take everything, I want you to...". The retrospective analysis fueled conspiracy theories.
"Celebrity Skin" was good. Their best song may have been "Malibu", in 1998. Probably when she was at her best in terms of looks and talent, which is sort of strange, given it was four years after the tragic and unexpected death of her husband, who was literally on top of the music world in 1994. Didn't seem to have any lasting effects on her. But, perhaps music was her therapy.
(I just recently finished watching some videos on Grunge, Kurt and Layne, their lives, their spirals downward, the odd tale of Demri Parrot, Layne Staley's off and on girlfriend who also died after destroying her life with heroin, Kurt's death, and am editing a book review about the Grunge era trying to do things to make some money, so this stuff is fresh in my head right now. Just prior to Layne's death he told people that she'd come to visit him in the apartment that he secluded himself within. Alice in Chains recorded Unplugged just a few months prior to Demri's death. She had severe health issues from heroin abuse and was deteriorating quickly at that time, and if you watched Layne, it was obvious at that recording he was spiraling down as well. That show was pretty much it for AIC.)
The narrative around Kurt's death has never sat well with people that looked into the details. There have been rumors for over 30 years that Courtney played a role in his death. There are some fan-made documentaries on youtube that are interesting and worth the time to watch on a rainy day.
Nevermind and In Utero were both fantastic albums. Nirvana was part of what may have been the greatest year in rock history - 1991. The list of albums released that year is nothing short of incredible. Grunge produced the two best MTV Unplugged shows ever with Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Overall, Grunge doesn't get the credit it deserves. These were good bands, often playing in Drop-D tuning and the best of them had the world's best drummers and best vocalists, with only a few notable exceptions being outside of the grunge genre, like Neil Peart from Rush, on drums.
Heroin took quite a few people from the grunge era. It's not hard to see how Kurt lost his way, got overwhelmed, and took an early exit. It's also plausible that foul play was involved. Some think he was on the verge of breaking Nirvana apart, for his own sanity, thinking the fame, money, attention, and pressure was a negative influence. Remember, a substantial part of the Grunge vibe was being in music for the sake of being in music, not for purely commercial interests. Some speculated that Courtney felt this would put a stop to her gravy train and decided that Kurt was worth more to her if he was dead, rather than being married to the guy that broke up Nirvana and decided to live isolated from the fame and the fans. Some felt she believed that her career would fade away if Kurt broke up Nirvana, because she was tethered to him.
Many people in music have questioned Courtney Love's talent and ability to front a band. Her band did put out some good songs, though. "Violet" and "Doll Parts" were two, early, good ones, from Live Through This, with lyrics like, "when they get what they want, and they never want it again...go on take everything, take everything, I want you to...". The retrospective analysis fueled conspiracy theories.
"Celebrity Skin" was good. Their best song may have been "Malibu", in 1998. Probably when she was at her best in terms of looks and talent, which is sort of strange, given it was four years after the tragic and unexpected death of her husband, who was literally on top of the music world in 1994. Didn't seem to have any lasting effects on her. But, perhaps music was her therapy.
(I just recently finished watching some videos on Grunge, Kurt and Layne, their lives, their spirals downward, the odd tale of Demri Parrot, Layne Staley's off and on girlfriend who also died after destroying her life with heroin, Kurt's death, and am editing a book review about the Grunge era trying to do things to make some money, so this stuff is fresh in my head right now. Just prior to Layne's death he told people that she'd come to visit him in the apartment that he secluded himself within. Alice in Chains recorded Unplugged just a few months prior to Demri's death. She had severe health issues from heroin abuse and was deteriorating quickly at that time, and if you watched Layne, it was obvious at that recording he was spiraling down as well. That show was pretty much it for AIC.)
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:37 pm to AlterEd
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Of course you can't be bothered to read th-
Answer me this. Why involve a firearm and note? Would it not be soooo much cleaner to just force an overdose, no note. And then just walk away?
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