re: Current US turmoil was what Hitler predicted

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Nazism began in a beer hall basement,

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I’ve had friends that are radical Marxists that I have disavowed and have gone crazy. This is how they talk when it comes to communism. I’m not going to play your games. What you are preaching is evil and a gateway to fascism. I encourage people to look into it, but I don’t encourage people to give people like Hitler, Lenin, and Stalin the benefit of the doubt and that they may have had a major point. They were evil that took advantage of a populace in chaos.

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About the only thing I can concede to Hiltler was his ability to dupe and motivate several million Germans to believe his vision of racial purity. There's quite a bit of that duping going on in America but its morphed into duping Americans into the degeneration of societal standards rather than convincing millions of Americans that a particular ethnic group is superior to another.....although this BLM BS is close to convincing sniveling White folks they're the devil.

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I'm not one to go all Chicken Little over everything the left does, and given our track record as a nation, smart money is on the US emerging from the current crises stronger than ever before, but like I said, it does give one pause. The greatest threat to the United States as the world's superpower isn't an external force. It's the people within tearing it down, IMHO.

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It is the democrats, RINOs, globalists, leftists, MSM, and many leftist organizations funded by G. S O R. O. S.
All anti-Trump people. This means Trump must be re-elected to help save our nation.

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They’ve been largely reformed, but I would agree that the Catholic Church has largely been an evil on society.

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Would you say that there are aspects of Catholicism that are worth considering?

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Would you say that there are aspects of Catholicism that are worth considering?

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Much more than Nazi ideology.

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but current climate makes me wonder if that fricking Nazi wasn't just a generation ahead of his time with regard to his perception of American society

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Militarily, Hitler was a fool that believed too much of his own press, but politically, he was quite prescient and gifted. Various others have basically aped some of his points and predictions, some of them in "respectable" quarters like Academia. They'd just never admit it.

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and given our track record as a nation, smart money is on the US emerging from the current crises stronger than ever before

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I bet Romans said the same thing after the city was sacked the first time.

There's a school of thought out there that nations and their peoples have a kind of natural size limit. If you get too big in territory and population, then natural divisions pop up and sub-nations are created that become unmanageable and incompatible with each other. This school of thought, typified by Colin Woodward, says the US has gotten so big and far flung that it's really a collection of about a dozen nations, all with enough differences that they should split up for long term stability. Now, I don't agree with Woodward's proposed map (below), but I do agree "America" is at this point made up of about five or six regions that have nothing in common with each other anymore save a language that gives us just enough connection to insult and threaten each other ("We beat you traitors once, we'll do it again, and this time will finish the job" - thousands of posts from Yankees and Left Coasters on many various forums). In my later years, I've come to agree that it's past time for a divorce.

To sum up: I'd bet against you.

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So, you are saying that something that can be considered evil in totality is not without possible merits?

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Nazism was evil from its conception. Catholicism wasn’t. The wars, the Spanish Inquisition, and the child molestations are more of a bug than a feature of Catholicism. The evil is a key feature of Nazism though. If you can’t see the difference between those, then I don’t know what to tell you.

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I don’t know what to tell you.

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That’s been pretty obvious for like five pages now

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hypothetical...you have to choose one under which to live

Fascism or communism


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Fight or die. Both wholly unacceptable and evil.