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re: Current Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick took children to Epstein island in 2012
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:10 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:10 pm to GumboPot
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I’ve seen many comments on X that this tranche of Epstein files were released because Trump did not bomb Iran the second time. Now a second tranche is being held over his head to strike Iran as early as this week
It won't matter. There's no there there. He's going to do what he's going to do. The release of any new documents are only going to expose people he wants exposed anyways.
As far as Lutnik goes, he supposedly visited Epstein's New York residence one time in the early 2000's. He later told people that he cut all ties then and there because Epstein offered him a massage from "the right kind of girl." He said he's a creep and the best blackmailer in the world.
However, that isn't the truth. The truth is that he DID take his family and another family along with 8 kids TO EPSTEIN ISLAND in December of 2012. Four years after Epstein had been convicted as a sex trafficker of underage girls.
People may not like it because he's "one of us", but he needs to answer for this. These same people shitting on this would otherwise tell you that if anyone visited Epstein Island knowing who he was SHOULD be scrutinized.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 12:11 pm
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:16 pm to AlterEd
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As far as Lutnik goes, he supposedly visited Epstein's New York residence one time in the early 2000's. He later told people that he cut all ties then and there because Epstein offered him a massage from "the right kind of girl." He said he's a creep and the best blackmailer in the world.
However, that isn't the truth. The truth is that he DID take his family and another family along with 8 kids TO EPSTEIN ISLAND in December of 2012. Four years after Epstein had been convicted as a sex trafficker of underage girls.
yeah. the evidence is indisputable that he lied because he knew about Epstein and then still took kids to his island.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:16 pm to AlterEd
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It really is astonishing. People have been told over and over that there would be Republican types caught up in this too. Right now you can see people who would otherwise be helping expose this shite if it were a Democrat defending it because this guy is a Republican. Happening in real time.
If I found out that my own father was involved I'd turn him in.
Anybody that rapes children should frankly be executed. Anyone from an illegal alien all the way up to the president.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:17 pm to AlterEd
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This stuff here gets pretty dark if you follow the rabbit hole down. It's not really worth talking about here though, because it will just attract the usual suspects who will flock in and scream everyone is crazy until they're blue in the face. Suffice to say, these people are disgusting individuals.
I attended a prestigious upstate New York college with a lot of children whose parents ran in these circles. That experience caused me to run away after graduation and never return.
I wish I could say I'm surprised by the disgustingly casual tone of these emails as people talk about assault, child abduction, rape, and murder. But I'm sadly not surprised. Many of the wealthy elites (and their parents) I met in college don't view people in lower social classes as human beings. They see them as disposable resources that can be exploited and disposed whenever its useful for them.
As disheartening as that experience was, I wish everyone could have a firsthand window into that world. It strengthened my resolve to volunteer and help people who are less fortunate than I am. The people in these Epstein emails, which represent a broad swath of elite society on the East and West coasts, don't care about conservative/liberal politics at the end of the day. They primarily care about the preservation of their wealth and status. They are also elitists who feel they deserve to do whatever they want, no matter how much pain and suffering they cause "others."
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:19 pm to sgallo3
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yeah. the evidence is indisputable that he lied because he knew about Epstein and then still took kids to his island.
He did, IN FACT, lie about his involvement with Epstein. He did, IN FACT, visit Epstein island, KNOWING FULL WELL exactly who he is and what he does WITH 8 children.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:21 pm to MikeyFL
Right. Epstein considered the rest of us to be nothing more than useless eaters. He called us goyim. The people in his circles felt the same way.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:21 pm to wadewilson
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If I found out that my own father was involved I'd turn him in.
Well I guess his and his friend's kids were in on it. Contrary to OPs belief that Lutnik videoed Epstein raping and murdering them, all 4 are living, successful adults. And Lutnik is still married to their mother, who according to OP, was also in on it.
I like how not believing something due to a lack of evidence is somehow not the correct way to live.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:22 pm to MikeyFL
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I attended a prestigious upstate New York college with a lot of children whose parents ran in these circles. That experience caused me to run away after graduation and never return.
I wish I could say I'm surprised by the disgustingly casual tone of these emails as people talk about assault, child abduction, rape, and murder. But I'm sadly not surprised. Many of the wealthy elites (and their parents) I met in college don't view people in lower social classes as human beings. They see them as disposable resources that can be exploited and disposed whenever its useful for them.
As disheartening as that experience was, I wish everyone could have a firsthand window into that world. It strengthened my resolve to volunteer and help people who are less fortunate than I am. The people in these Epstein emails, which represent a broad swath of elite society on the East and West coasts, don't care about conservative/liberal politics at the end of the day. They primarily care about the preservation of their wealth and status. They are also elitists who feel they deserve to do whatever they want, no matter how much pain and suffering they cause "others."
While that is disheartening it is a blessing that you able to see things for what they were and realize that chasing that path wouldn't lead you to happiness.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:23 pm to GRTiger
Who says that they murdered these kids?
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:26 pm to AlterEd
OP was devestated to learn that there were videos of kid rape and murder that he didn't get to watch, and connected them to Lutnik when he posted this randomness in a thread last night.
He's also convinced that the anonymous tips sent about Trump like 10 minutes ago are a smoking gun that Trump raped kids as well.
He's also convinced that the anonymous tips sent about Trump like 10 minutes ago are a smoking gun that Trump raped kids as well.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:28 pm to GRTiger
It sounds to me like you are conflating two different issues out of convenience to try and sweep this under the rug. I haven't seen one mention of anyone murdering any children in this thread. Nobody is claiming that.
The facts are this. Lutnik lied about his involvement with Epstein. We KNOW that he knew about Epstein's disgusting proclivities and despite this he DID take 8 children to Epstein's island AFTER he was a convicted sex offender.
The facts are this. Lutnik lied about his involvement with Epstein. We KNOW that he knew about Epstein's disgusting proclivities and despite this he DID take 8 children to Epstein's island AFTER he was a convicted sex offender.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:29 pm to AlterEd
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Who says that they murdered these kids?
There are unconfirmed claims throughout the documents so far, but nothing concrete because the authorities who could have investigated such claims failed to do their job.
As far as I'm concerned, Epstein and his friends essentially "murdered" every child they abused. Very few people who go through an experience like that in their childhood make it through adulthood without unbearable emotional pain and suffering, and many commit suicide.
But also, if I am correct, emails indicate these rotten people enjoyed snuff films. Given the power and influence of Epstein and his ilk, that's a huge red flag.
If I am wrong about this, however, please do correct me. There's only so much I can view of this stuff before I feel like I need to hug my 2 year old daughter and disconnect from the internet.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:30 pm to GRTiger
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OP was devestated to learn that there were videos of kid rape and murder that he didn't get to watch
There’s no point in trying to discuss things if you’re gonna be this melodramatic and emotional
No one is saying this. There’s zero need to sling this shite at the OP or anyone else for that matter.
The problems are outlined very clearly in this thread. If you can’t address them without the histrionics, then don’t address them at all.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:32 pm to MikeyFL
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As far as I'm concerned, Epstein and his friends murdered every child they abused.
Well, they may have murdered some, but clearly not all of them. Otherwise he would have never been convicted either time. Survivors have testified against him in court.
And at least one of them was then killed after that.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:38 pm to NawlinsTiger9
OP, last night, was outwardly outraged that the videos weren't released. He said it was proof that nothing was being done about it. I asked how he knew, he responded with the same post he has in his OP.
Forgive me if I misunderstood his very direct connection between kiddie porn and snuff videos to the guy he literally gave as an example of someone getting away with it.
Forgive me if I misunderstood his very direct connection between kiddie porn and snuff videos to the guy he literally gave as an example of someone getting away with it.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:41 pm to GRTiger
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OP, last night, was outwardly outraged that the videos weren't released. He said it was proof that nothing was being done about it
You realize they can censor videos and pictures much like they did for the ones they did release right?
you are the one that took the post saying they didn't release the pictures/videos as wanting to see gore. thats on you.
and the proof nothing is being done about it is the fact that they've had these files and emails for years and Howard Lutnick is currently in office.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:43 pm to sgallo3
he took his kids to Epstein island. it's on him to prove his rationality behind that decision
Yes sir
Yes sir
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:44 pm to sgallo3
Why must you reach for bullshite in order to feel right? It's enough for most of us that he went to the Island, even if it was a weird family dinner.
You force reasonable people to combat the unreasonable takes. I don't want to defend anyone involved with Epstein. But I can't get on board with unsubstantiated bullshite. Illleave that to you enlightened few.
You force reasonable people to combat the unreasonable takes. I don't want to defend anyone involved with Epstein. But I can't get on board with unsubstantiated bullshite. Illleave that to you enlightened few.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:49 pm to GRTiger
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I don't want to defend anyone involved with Epstein.
yet here you are
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I can't get on board with unsubstantiated bullshite.
what is unsubstantiated? he is on camera doing an interview saying he cut ties with Epstein and would never be in the same room again with him.
then he is in emails planning dinners with him which means he did not cut ties with him and was just lying because he knew how it would look.
he had no reason to lie about cutting ties with Epstein, he chose to do that.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:51 pm to sgallo3
You called him a rapist. If you based that on the info you've shared, then you're a very ignorant person. That has to be clear and simple enough for even you.
Dems are calling Trump a pedophile rapist based on the random, unsubstantiated "tips." How are you different than them, if you claim to be?
Dems are calling Trump a pedophile rapist based on the random, unsubstantiated "tips." How are you different than them, if you claim to be?
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