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re: Crooks was at firing range at least 43 times

Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16051 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:44 pm to
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How many other locals were club members? How many also trained there several times a month? Should we investigate all gun club regulars?


No, just the ones that have multiple overseas accts, have frequent visits from the FBI, fly drones over the site the day of, then climb on top of a building 130 yards from the President, then shoot the President in the face.

Those type of gun club members should def be investigated.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:58 pm to
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The ranges up North are like clubs not open business. You must be approved by the BOD's and or sign in with someone. IOW's you are vouched for.


The post right above yours includes a link to the club the perp joined. It tells you how you can join.

Btw, as a Junior member the perp only paid 30 bucks a year.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:14 pm to
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I've shot at the local Sheriff's shooting range alongside LEO.
Exactly. Short of wearing a sign or a t-shirt thst said “I’m planning to kill Trump” how is anyone supposed to know what he’s up to?

Are going to start investigating everyone that goes to a gun range? They must be planning something! This is exactly what Democrats think.. anyone that owns a gun is a latent criminal.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Only the most diehard, paranoid conspiracy believers would be convinced it's some kind of proof that Crooks had a link to law enforcement.

Ill bet $100 thst the manufacturer of his rifle and ammunition also supplies law enforcement agencies. Clearly proving they were involved.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:24 pm to
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why was Crooks allowed to climb a roof in plain sight


Concealed access point and poor SS/LE coordination to secure rooftop.

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with a rifle


Collapsable and concealed.

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while people were pointing him out and given time to fire off 8 shots?


LE actively converging and made contact at time of attempt. Poor SS/LE coordination of communication.

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Trump is given no warning there is a very suspicious character in the area


Suspicious persons are just that, suspicious. In zero cases would the asset receive report.

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it was known for a full three minutes there was an armed man on a roof within easy rifle range of Trump


Known by civilians armed with cell phone cameras. LE didn’t establish that fact until seconds before shots.

Poor planning, poor execution. Those are the facts. No need to speculate when you have the facts.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167342 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:30 pm to
Who was he a guest of? Was he a member?

https://www.clairtonsc.org/membership
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:01 pm to
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Who was he a guest of? Was he a member?


OP had a report he had been a member for almost a year.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20992 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:33 pm to
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The guy joined a year ago. He didn’t know Trump was coming to Butler County.


IDK when Trump's campaign cemented a rally in Butler. But, it was probably understood Trump would have to campaign in PA from months back.

TBH, that would be an interesting fact to know, i.e., when did Trump's campaign begin considering Butler and coordinating with SS?
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20992 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:36 pm to
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let's also keep in mind that there was a second shooter, according to some of the private citizen collected data. IF you want to believe into that.


Martenson's audio fingerprints confirm a second site. Is there a physics based reason not to believe that?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20992 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Well through Trump's continued actions, it seems he doesn't agree with the general opinion of the Tigerdroppings poli-board on the conspiratorial involvement of the United States Secret Service in his assassination attempt, and we know this because he continues to rely on their protection. Protection he can reject at any time and easily hire his own or rely on donors to hire.


Is it known that there have been zero changes in how involved Trump's people are in the security planning?

Just saying he continues to use them does not equate to nothing's changed since Butler.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20992 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:56 pm to
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why was Crooks allowed to climb a roof in plain sight with a rifle
I've already addressed the gross ineptitude of the security assigned to the rally, both federal and local.


That one and then the other local snipers stationed to overwatch the Bldg 6 roof abandoned their station during the very time frame Crooks positioned himself on the roof and all the shots were fired was just coincidence strains credulity.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Unlike you, my parents didn't spend a penny on my college education. What wasn't covered by my academic scholarship (this was pre-TOPS) I paid for by working multiple jobs and saving my money during high school and college, airhead.


Still your benefactors wasted their money, Gross ineptitude? That is laughable. they left a rooftop unsecured which was the easiest and best place to take a shot at the podium. If you watched the grilling of the congressional committee assigned to investigate what happened you would note the incredible and nasty attitude of the assistant director. Why you embrace gross ineptitude over the obvious is a legitimate question.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:23 pm to
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If you take all that is listed here you’d believe that Crooks was a govt. asset, a govt. stooge, part of a vast conspiracy with shooters on the water tower, in a deer stand, in several first floor windows, and several second floor windows.

Everything we all knew about the SS went out the window in Butler County. We deserve to know why it was so easy to shoot Trump, but that doesn’t mean all this stuff we see is true. A lot if it is nonsense


Not at all, Crooks was most likely known, allowed to make his way to his shooting position and the govt stooges let him. It is very possiblehe had no connection to the government. Encrypted bank accounts? Blackrock commercial?
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