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re: Crime has been falling in DC.

Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26353 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:24 pm to
Hey Google, is crime down in Washington DC over last year?

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The FBI's reporting of Washington D.C. crime statistics is currently incomplete due to the transition to the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS). While the FBI is working towards full NIBRS participation, some agencies, including D.C.'s, have faced challenges in fully transitioning, leading to data gaps
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38522 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:25 pm to
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There was a post Covid spike everywhere

Crime had been falling for 25 years with these liberal policies in these cities prior to that, and falling at approx the same rate everywhere else with whatever other policies.

Partisanship has nothing to do with this discussion. It's basically been the same everywhere.

Crime started skyrocketing in the 70s and then cranked higher in the 80s, peaking in the mid 90s. We still don't know why that happened or why it's fallen so much.

Covid was an outlier-aberration with a short term spike but that self corrected
It's amazing how resistant people are to these simple facts.

They constantly bitch about the warping effects of the internet and social media...and then have ZERO awareness of them being warped by the internet and social media.

And they pine for times that were obviously A LOT more dangerous.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38522 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Yeah, these are stats that never get juked.
Why wouldn't they have always been juked? And certainly it was much easier to juke them before the internet.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1383 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:30 pm to
Your seemingly intelligent explanation is based on data that has been thoroughly discredited.

No one should rely on the FBI crime data to draw any conclusions.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1383 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:34 pm to
There are no simple facts here, the data used to make these assertions has been repeatedly cited as false.

It is possible some cities have seen an improvement, but to deny the reality that some people see every day is typical of a Democrat mindset and pushing of a narrative.

It is also interesting that you use the same tactic as Democrats when challenged on their assertions, insulting the people that bring up an opposite view. Keep it up, this says more about you than anyone else.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6334 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:38 pm to
It's not a cover up. It's an oversight.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4535 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:39 pm to
SFP got owned again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Your seemingly intelligent explanation is based on data that has been thoroughly discredited.

It has not, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

It's amazing how resistant people are to these simple facts.

They constantly bitch about the warping effects of the internet and social media...and then have ZERO awareness of them being warped by the internet and social media.

And they pine for times that were obviously A LOT more dangerous.


It's been a thing on here for me since the mid-00s. It never gets old.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

It has not, though.


sure about that?

quote:

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics


Washington DC NBC affiliate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:34 pm to
One random allegation without even a scope attached is not disproving anything.

And, as always, that's why murder rate is the leading focus. You can't really hide murders.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro


you have been reduced to palling around with Big Scrub who isn't even a Tier 4 level poster.

sad.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

One random allegation without even a scope attached is not disproving anything.


the actual Police Chief was suspended for falsifying crime reports just 3 weeks ago. - Fact

And you say there is no evidence of falsifying crime reports?

does not compute.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39870 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

It has not, though.


Are you claiming liberal states/cities have been honest about 100% of crime stats accurately?
Thats quite the leap
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:42 pm to
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And you say there is no evidence of falsifying crime reports?

Don't debase yourself to strawmen. He said "thoroughly discredited."

I never claimed there was "no evidence" and that's not the standard being discussed.

quote:

the actual Police Chief was suspended for falsifying crime reports just 3 weeks ago.

Do you have another story? Because that's not what your link says.

quote:

Pulliam — the former commander of the 3rd District that patrols Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights


What % of the total crime does his district represent?

What % of that % is claimed to be false? Based on what credible information?

If you can't specifically answer these questions, my point hasn't been discredited, let alone "thoroughly" discredited.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Are you claiming liberal states/cities have been honest about 100% of crime stats accurately?

I never said that, either

quote:

Thats quite the leap

One never made.

And trust me, you don't want "100% proven" to be the standard for YOUR argument.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:44 pm to
a random allegation?

the Chief of Police being suspended for falsifying reports for the FBI is just a random allegation?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

the Chief of Police being suspended

Did not happen
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

What % of the total crime does his district represent?

What % of that % is claimed to be false? Based on what credible information?

If you can't specifically answer these questions, my point hasn't been discredited, let alone "thoroughly" discredited.


talk about a straw man. the investigation is still underway. but the fact he has been suspended since may for falsifying crime statistic reports sure sounds like evidence of falsifying crime statistics.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141718 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:50 pm to
Police Commander not Chief.
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