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Court strikes down NC state legislative district lines,
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:30 pm to Jjdoc
Can't take all this winning. Please stop, my sides hurt.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:32 pm to Jjdoc
Race should not be a factor when drawing any type of voting district.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:43 pm to Jjdoc
These district lines should be generated by computer, without regard to demographics, keeping the districts as geographically coherent as possible.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:45 pm to corneredbeast
I would think you'd want them to be adjusted by population as well, not just geographically. You'd have some serious representation per capita issues if population isn't a major factor
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:49 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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I would think you'd want them to be adjusted by population as well, not just geographically. You'd have some serious representation per capita issues if population isn't a major factor
Population is the MAIN factor. Federal law requires that each district in the entire country have roughly the same population.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:22 pm to Jjdoc
Lol I don't think you understand this ruling
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:45 pm to Wally Sparks
Looks less gerrymandered in the proposal.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:49 pm to UHTiger
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Lol I don't think you understand this ruling
LOL.
Liberals don't understand it.
For all their griping about gerrymandered districts, virtually the sole reason the congressional black caucus even exists is because of them.
Be careful what you ask for cause if they go away, congress is about to get a lot whiter.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
Court is limiting the Republican gerrymander. Great victory for Democrats. Every state should use a computer demographic program to re-apportion, like California does.
If Calif Dems used the Republican gerrymandering principles of Louisiana, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, and Ohio, Cali Dems could erase 10 Republican US Reps.
If Calif Dems used the Republican gerrymandering principles of Louisiana, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, and Ohio, Cali Dems could erase 10 Republican US Reps.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:00 pm to ShortyRob
What don't liberals understand? The court struck down the congressional district lines drawn up the by the Republican controlled NC legislature, citing they improperly used race. The effect of the new districts was less black representation.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:07 pm to The Spleen
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What don't liberals understand? The court struck down the congressional district lines drawn up the by the Republican controlled NC legislature, citing they improperly used race. The effect of the new districts was less black representation.
Yeah.
Get back to me if this gets widespread and the CBC is cut in half or more.
Let me know how American blacks react to that.
That some top of the line liberals understand that concentrating the black vote harms the OVERALL democratic team, I guess people forget that it was liberals that wanted "majority minority" districts in the first place.
So yeah. Go ahead. Make congress whiter while spreading black voters out. I'm sure that's going to go over realllllly well.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:09 pm to GeorgeWest
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Court is limiting the Republican gerrymander. Great victory for Democrats. Every state should use a computer demographic program to re-apportion, like California does.
literally impossible for any court where the VRA applies and minority districts can't be diluted. that was actually the primary issue in this case, iirc
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:12 pm to The Spleen
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The effect of the new districts was less black representation.
not sure if this is the same case
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The lawmakers said they had tried to comply with the Voting Rights Act, which in some settings requires that black voters be concentrated in numbers sufficient to provide them with an opportunity to elect their preferred candidates. But critics of the voting map said the legislature was actually trying to diminish the number of districts in the state that could be won by Democrats.
Writing for the majority, Justice Elena Kagan said states did not have unlimited leeway in drawing districts in a claimed attempt to comply with the voting law. With the decision, the court was also trying to solve a constitutional puzzle: how to disentangle the roles of race and partisanship when black voters overwhelmingly favor Democrats. The difference matters because the Supreme Court has said only racial gerrymandering is constitutionally suspect.
so they have to keep the minority (black) voting strong while not diluting the outlying districts. this is a very, very difficult (maybe impossible) task. you can have black-majority districts to ensure no dilution in black representation or you can have more evenly-distributed districts around these areas. it's probably impossible to have both
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