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re: Cornell accuser told cops: ‘With 100% confidence I was raped

Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:00 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:00 am to
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But you seem to now be arguing that men are more capable of controlling them? Or that they at least are expected to be more capable of self-control?


Both.

Men are expected to control their emotions in the course of everyday affairs way more than women are expected to, and they do so.

But it goes way deeper than that.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:02 am to
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I’m not arguing from a Marxist framework or invoking one.


You got to the mischaracterization part really quick on this thread.

I never said you were arguing anything on this thread from Marxism. I said that studying Marxist derived writings has trained you to think a certain way and that way of thinking is evidenced on this thread.

But you knew that.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 9:12 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63620 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:33 am to
What works have you inferred influenced my contributions to this thread?

Honestly, I’m annoyed by you constantly blaming vague Marxist and feminist ideas, theories and now texts and attributing every thought I have to them.

If you think my thinking has been shaped by something specific, at least tell me what you think it is.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63620 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:40 am to
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Men are expected to control their emotions in the course of everyday affairs way more than women are expected to, and they do so.


This place demonstrates the exact opposite of that. This board is populated primarily by men who spend all day insulting other people over inconsequential political opinions.

Conviction and incarceration rates demonstrate the exact opposite of that. Murder rates demonstrate the exact opposite of your claim. Property crime convictions demonstrate the exact opposite of your claim. Domestic violence rates demonstrate the opposite of your claim.

what are you basing the claim that men actually exercise greater self-control on? What observable behavior or evidence leads you to that conclusion?
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
3022 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:47 am to
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what are you basing the claim that men actually exercise greater self-control on? What observable behavior or evidence leads you to that conclusion?


Your weekly karenisms, including your last post, are a good start. Just STFU and take a Midol, Karen.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39992 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:58 am to
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If you think my thinking has been shaped by something specific, at least tell me what you think it is.
I'll take a shot at it even though not directed to me. Aside from this case because we are far from the whole story, but typically anyone that is under privileged you consider them as the victim even they are almost always responsible for their places in life. They are not victims. I am not sure you are capable of objective reasoning because of the victim mentality. They need advocates but advocate for taking responsibility.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:03 am to
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If you think my thinking has been shaped by something specific, at least tell me what you think it is.


It doesn't make it any less true that you have been trained to think a certain way whether I can name the specific books you've read or not.

You think the same way that academia has trained countless academic wokies to think.

Am I really to conclude that you came up with your thought patterns on your own, parallel to the tide of mainstream academic thought, while reading it, as a complete coincidence?

We can pretend that if you'd like. Doesn't matter to me.

Because all of this niggling is beside the point, and you know it. The thinking is either correct or flawed. That's the point. Whether you adopted it on your own, from a book, from a class lecture, or by plain old cultural/social osmosis in the academic context in which you live.

In this case, it's either true that western society has normalized the sexual objectification of women, or it's true that we're living in a time in which that claim has never been more false in western society.

That's the point. It's obviously the latter.

So you tell me, what is it that has caused you to adopt such an obviously flawed claim if not the academic environment that makes the same obvious blunder with regard to race, class, economic systems, and everything else under the sun?

It doesn't really matter, but if you don't like me pointing that out, then you tell me.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:06 am to
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This place demonstrates the exact opposite of that.


How many times have you preached that this board does not in any way represent mainstream thought? Actually, you say that about just about anything that anybody posts from anywhere, but you definitely say it about this board.

So why is this board significant as an evidentiary exhibit in this discussion all of a sudden?
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 11:08 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63620 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:33 am to
I’m currently reading Milton Friedman.

You seem to believe women lack the capacity to formulate ideas or opinions. You have repeatedly insinuated and now explicitly named that my ideas are not my own, but instead are a regurgitation of an academic works you can’t identify.

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Because all of this niggling is beside the point, and you know it.
it’s not. The constant normalized reduction of women is the actual point.

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In this case, it's either true that western society has normalized the sexual objectification of women, or it's true that we're living in a time in which that claim has never been more false in western society.
all observable behavior indicates this is not the case. But I’m sure someone can find a tweet from some random influencer that proves your point. Isolated instances don’t amount to cultural norms.

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So you tell me, what is it that has caused you to adopt such an obviously flawed claim if not the academic environment that makes the same obvious blunder with regard to race, class, economic systems, and everything else under the sun?
wtf kind of question is this? If you’re asking why I disagree with you, it’s because you’re wrong.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
141516 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:55 am to
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Conviction and incarceration rates demonstrate the exact opposite of that. Murder rates demonstrate the exact opposite of your claim. Property crime convictions demonstrate the exact opposite of your claim. Domestic violence rates demonstrate the opposite of your claim.
Do they?

Yours is an assumption which ignores a massive volume of associated baseline information ... evolutionary biology, amygdala-prefrontal interface differences, somatic priming, delayed cortical developmental differences, etc.
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