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Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:11 am to Jjdoc
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US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged[18] per the Gun Control Act of 1968.
So there is a law in place which should have prevented this bad guy from getting any type of weapon, even a .22 single shot rifle.
SO the prog/DEM/MSM response is that we need to have even more laws that restrict me and my family from exercising our inherent rights positively enumerated for protection by the 2nd amendment.
If the prog laws had been in effect, probably the good guy who stopped the slaughter with a gun would have been just another unarmed potential victim hiding behind a door in his home while another 25 people were methodically shot down by the shitbag. And then the progs would have used that in an even more fevered pitch for confiscation
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 7:13 am
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:12 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It was a bad conduct discharge.
And?
He's suggesting that a bad conduct discharge does not make it illegal to possess a firearm.
It is different from a dishonorable discharge, which does prohibit firearm possession. The OP said he had a dishonorable, and that now appears to be incorrect.
However, this guy is said to have a domestic assault conviction. Even a misdemeanor conviction for that stuff makes it a federal felony to possess firearms.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 am to ChineseBandit58
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So there is a law in place which should have prevented this bad guy from getting any type of weapon, even a .22 single shot rifle.
Yes. In fact, Gov Abbott is about to be on Fox. He has already stated this was denied guns.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 am to Twenty 49
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quote:
It was a bad conduct discharge.
And?
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He's suggesting that a bad conduct discharge does not make it illegal to possess a firearm.
It is different from a dishonorable discharge, which does prohibit firearm possession. The OP said he had a dishonorable, and that now appears to be incorrect.
However, this guy is said to have a domestic assault conviction. Even a misdemeanor conviction for that stuff makes it a federal felony to possess firearms
Thanks for the update - I have just awakened and get all my info from TD so far.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:24 am to Twenty 49
I'm aware. I'm wondering what his point was, and I'd like him to explain it.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:27 am to Twenty 49
quote:No telling if that shows up in a background check. The NRA has fought all efforts on background checks to make them much more difficult than needed.
He's suggesting that a bad conduct discharge does not make it illegal to possess a firearm.
It is different from a dishonorable discharge, which does prohibit firearm possession. The OP said he had a dishonorable, and that now appears to be incorrect.
However, this guy is said to have a domestic assault conviction. Even a misdemeanor conviction for that stuff makes it a federal felony to possess firearms.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:28 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Abbott "shooter waa denied Right to Carry permit"
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:38 am to mmcgrath
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No telling if that shows up in a background check. The NRA has fought all efforts on background checks to make them much more difficult than needed.
Again Mmcgrath... duevto his discharge he was denied the right.
NBC
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And Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said Monday on the "Today" show that the gunman was denied a right-to-carry permit in Texas due to his discharge.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:44 am to AUstar
For domestic battery, child endangerment etc. He assaulted his wife and his kid.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:01 am to Jjdoc
The rules on eligibility for CCL can be more strict than the laws that forbid possession.
In some states, a bad conduct discharge would DQ you from getting a CCL but not make it illegal to possess a firearm.
In some states, a bad conduct discharge would DQ you from getting a CCL but not make it illegal to possess a firearm.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:02 am to SirWinston
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Doesn't change the fact that this is a horrible day for gun rights advocates. Having a white male killer is brutal in helping the left's narrative. I don't like that that is true nor do I think it's fair, but that's simply the fact.
Zachary man found shot to death early Sunday in North Baton Rouge
It’s a little game I like to play where i just pull up the Advocate on any given day and pluck a murder from the headlines that took place overnight or the previous day.
Why aren’t liberals up in arms over these killings? Is it because the onesie twosies that happen relentlessly every single day and multiple times a day, aren’t as sensational as the ones that happen in one setting,, or is it because white killers with scary guns with letters attached to their name kills people more so than handguns do (complete opposite is true of course) but perhaps it’s like a slam dunk being more exciting than a three point shot. Or maybe it doesn’t help their narrative.
Why so silent liberals?
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:07 am to SirWinston
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Doesn't change the fact that this is a horrible day for gun rights advocates. Having a white male killer is brutal in helping the left's narrative. I don't like that that is true nor do I think it's fair, but that's simply the fact.
The only reason this "helps" the left is because the guy was white. That's a big thing to hang their hat on, however it does nothing to thwart the truth. The truth is, probably this week alone, more people will be killed by black suspects just in the city of chicago. It might not even take a full week.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:08 am to Mike da Tigah
I'm not reading this whole thread but I have to admit that I'm somewhat confused. I know the difference between a bad conduct discharge and a dishonorable discharge.
But this case makes me now want to know exactly what the frick are they checking when they do a background check? Because regardless of what you call the discharge it would seem to me that recently Landing in prison for a year for abusing your wife and child should probably trip a background check
If it doesn't then what the frick does?
But this case makes me now want to know exactly what the frick are they checking when they do a background check? Because regardless of what you call the discharge it would seem to me that recently Landing in prison for a year for abusing your wife and child should probably trip a background check
If it doesn't then what the frick does?
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