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re: Confessions of a Public Defender
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:35 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:35 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'm almost positive I've seen him cite the 'blacks have a lower IQ' line. It may have been another poster, but I'm almost sure it was Zach.
Zach has said that no fewer than 1123 times. Okay, that's an exaggeration. But he does it often enough.
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:43 pm to Joshjrn
"and you know this how?"
"I don't"
"Just a hunch"
"He seems to"
"It just doesn't read like...."
"I don't"
"Just a hunch"
"He seems to"
"It just doesn't read like...."
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:44 pm to Dick Leverage
Not to out anyone and I'm not disclosing more than he already has, but I know that poster personally and he absolutely does work with the element described in the article.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:08 pm to Navytiger74
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It's the most widely read WN (White Nationalist) site in the US...
Glad I did not Google that.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:37 pm to LeonPhelps
quote:I was going to point this out also but you said it much more eloquently than I could have.
He gave his observations. He should have avoided the sweeping generalizations of all black people or avoided making sweeping judgements based on his clients, which are the lowest of the low. I would not want all whites to be judged based on those in prison. That is where is messed up.
The author should have prefaced his statements with" the majority of the blacks I have represented". Most generalizations were way too broad. He's definitely a liberal.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:41 pm to bhtigerfan
Or he's a racist giving a racist website what they want to hear, but using his "experiences" to make his garble seem more palatable to the general public.
Seems like it's worked perfectly.
Seems like it's worked perfectly.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:47 pm to VOR
quote:Please point out which statements in the article that could not possibly be genuine, besides the obvious generalizations that everyone has agreed upon.
By the way, that article by an alleged "public defender" is horseshite. No way it is genuine.
Seems like all the libs are attacking the validity of the author instead of the content of the article. And once again, I believe the author made too many sweeping generalizations instead of saying "the black clients I represented".
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:47 pm to Chappy
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Chappy
Well, now we know Steve Scalise's TD handle...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:30 am to Chappy
Has anyone given specific reason as to why this article is not the genuine work of a public defender? Other than they happen to disagree with the content or take a dim view of the website it was posted on?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:39 am to CptRusty
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Has anyone given specific reason as to why this article is not the genuine work of a public defender?
A criminal defense lawyer did a few pages back. His/her reasoning was the anecdotes given could have been observed by just about anyone, and the details given didn't really lend itself to someone that defended anyone in a court of law.
I don't think it's the words of a public defender for 2 reasons. One, the site it's posted on, and two, it was written under a pen name.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:39 am to CptRusty
quote:Nope. Just libtards being libtards. They "feel things" you know.
Has anyone given specific reason as to why this article is not the genuine work of a public defender? Other than they happen to disagree with the content or take a dim view of the website it was posted on?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:45 am to Chappy
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Unlike people of other races, blacks never see their lawyer as someone who is there to help them. I am a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case.
What complete screw up doesn't blame everyone else but themselves for the situation they are in?
That's definitely not race specific.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:45 am to Joshjrn
Here's the post from Joshjrn I'm referring to.
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Speaking as a criminal defense attorney, I've found that race has very little to do with it. Those who come from communities that have antagonistic relationships with police tend to be less likely to trust anyone involved in the system, and that includes their attorney. They will indeed ask little quiz questions to make sure you have the faintest idea as to what you're talking about. They will also try to put you on the defensive in an attempt to make sure that they have gotten the best deal the can. Considering the circumstances, I don't think any of that behavior is unreasonable.
Those who, generally, have had positive experiences with law enforcement prior to their arrest tend to have a completely different demeanor. They trust the system and those working within it to come to a fair resolution. They tend to be easier to work with. But, ultimately, you typically end up in the same place. Some clients just take a bit longer to build up the requisite trust.
That said, it's just a guideline. I've had people who have been mistreated by the system over and over again keep the faith, and I've had clients who have had every advantage act like idiots.
Anyway, the guy who wrote that piece isn't an attorney, much less a public defender, but he's certainly a racist prick.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:47 am to bhtigerfan
Just like you feel the article is true because it matches your beliefs allowing you to overcome the absurdity that an actual liberal public defender would go to a white supremacist website to provide an anonymous accounting that so perfectly matches what WS believe. Yeah, completely believable.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:50 am to The Spleen
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Anyway, the guy who wrote that piece isn't an attorney, much less a public defender, but he's certainly a racist prick.
Well he certainly made the claim, but where did he provide any evidence to back it up?
Again, disagreeing with the content and taking a dim view of the website it's posted on do not count.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:52 am to bhtigerfan
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Has anyone given specific reason as to why this article is not the genuine work of a public defender? Other than they happen to disagree with the content or take a dim view of the website it was posted on?
The nature of the site itself makes anything posted there suspect until definitively proven otherwise. AR gets no benefit of the doubt, and anyone who uses it as a source reveals quite a bit about their own character.
BTW, McKay is running with this piece on his little gossip site. I knew he was lazy, but apparently he's just using the Poliboard to do his legwork for him now.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:55 am to CptRusty
Sorry, copied wrong post.
I don't think there is any evidence either way. The writer chose to use a pen name to write under, so there's no way to check the name to see if he/she was a public defender.
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I don't. Just a hunch based on a combination of factors, such as that he seems to rely far too heavily on law hanging fruit that could easily be gleaned from hearing a criminal defense attorney talk, and the specifics he gives are bizarre, like saying his client prayed before a heist. How on earth would he know that? I don't see that showing up in an APC or IOR, and I certainly don't think a client is going to offer up that information.
Were I intent on writing an article like this, it would be very heavy on information I gathered from clients as opposed to anecdotal observation of the courtroom in general. In short, it just doesn't read like a criminal defense attorney would have written it.
I don't think there is any evidence either way. The writer chose to use a pen name to write under, so there's no way to check the name to see if he/she was a public defender.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:03 am to The Spleen
The poster you are quoting is doing nothing but stating that he is suspicious of the article and would write it differently if it were him. Fair enough, but that doesn't mean it wasn't written by an actual public defender.
Agreed, although I see a lot of people here doing the ad hominem thing instead of trying to refute the content. Not all, but some.
I consider this just as much evidence of it being genuine as it not.
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I don't think there is any evidence either way.
Agreed, although I see a lot of people here doing the ad hominem thing instead of trying to refute the content. Not all, but some.
quote:
The writer chose to use a pen name to write under
I consider this just as much evidence of it being genuine as it not.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:06 am to CptRusty
A pen name for a liberal public defender publishing on a racist website...I guess you'll believe anything.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:11 am to cwill
I believe any public defender posting any sort of candid article about his experiences on any website would be wise to use a pen name.
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