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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:15 am to CptRusty
Well, I think in some instances you have to take the site a column is posted on into consideration when reading said column. I got about halfway through the column and couldn't get past the racist tone of it, so poked around the website a bit. Sure enough, there were several other pieces that carried a racist tone. It's not really worth my time to refute the content. It's a racist piece containing confirmation bias of the site it's posted on, and written under a pen name. To me, that screams BS.
It's like posting an article from The Onion. If you know it's satire, why waste time refuting the content?
It's like posting an article from The Onion. If you know it's satire, why waste time refuting the content?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:18 am to CptRusty
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I believe any public defender posting any sort of candid article about his experiences on any website would be wise to use a pen name.
You really believe a liberal went to a white supremacist website to publish?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:18 am to cwill
quote:Please quote where I said I believed the article was truthful or not. If you can't, then STFU.
Just like you feel the article is true because it matches your beliefs allowing you to overcome the absurdity that an actual liberal public defender would go to a white supremacist website to provide an anonymous accounting that so perfectly matches what WS believe. Yeah, completely believable.
Who knows how or where the website got the article. They may have reposted it from another site.
And just because you and other libtards and the leftist organizations label it a white supremacist site means nothing.
As far as the author wanting to remain anonymous, that proves nothing. If it truly was written by a public defender, it would be career and reputation suicide to use his real name.
In other words, no one knows if it's truthful or not, but for you and other libtards to dismiss it because you find it racist is intellectually dishonest, but that's the norm for your ilk.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:18 am to The Spleen
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It's like posting an article from The Onion. If you know it's satire, why waste time refuting the content?
It's not at all the same thing. The onion is intended to be satire, this clearly is intended to be taken seriously (whether or not you do is another matte).
I'm not saying it is or isn't genuine, there just seemed to be a lot of folks throwing around "well he's clearly not an actual public defender" with nothing to back such claims up other than they don't like the content of the article.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:22 am to CptRusty
quote:Dude, quit confusing the libtards with logic. They cannot grasp this "logic" thing you speak of.
I believe any public defender posting any sort of candid article about his experiences on anywebsite would be wise to use a pen name.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:22 am to cwill
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You really believe a liberal went to a white supremacist website to publish?
I have no evidence to convince me otherwise.
FWIW I'm not taking the position that the article is definitely genuine, I'm simply challenging the people who claim so strongly that it wasn't written by a public defender to provide evidence to back up that claim.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:28 am to tigerfoot
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I opened the link and got pop ups everywhere, I think I just joined the Klan.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:29 am to bhtigerfan
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Please quote where I said I believed the article was truthful or not. If you can't, then STFU.
You don't believe it is truthful?
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Who knows how or where the website got the article. They may have reposted it from another site.
It's confirmed that it was posted to American Renaissance first - it's in this thread.
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And just because you and other libtards and the leftist organizations label it a white supremacist site means nothing.
There are people of every political stripe labeling it as such in this thread. It's patently obvious to any thinking, honest person that read the other articles on the website. I think you're just using your feelings again.
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As far as the author wanting to remain anonymous, that proves nothing. If it truly was written by a public defender, it would be career and reputation suicide to use his real name.
So you also are a wide eyed child that believes a liberal public defender would go to a white supremacist website to post his thoughts. Tells me more about you and your critical thinking skills.
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In other words, no one knows if it's truthful or not, but for you and other libtards to dismiss it because you find it racist is intellectually dishonest, but that's the norm for your ilk.
A liberal public defender went to a toned down Stormfront to post that article....not townhall or csn or any numerous other arch-conservative sites. No he went to a white supremacist site. Totally believable.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:36 am to Hawkeye95
Calling Amren a "hate group" is pretty ridiculous. It's effectively an interest group for whites that expresses a belief in a meaningful relationship between race and individual characteristics. Disagreeing with them is one thing, but there's nothing inherently "hateful" in their message.
I would personally have a hard time taking serious people who reference the ADL or Southern Poverty Law Center as their sources for making such determinations. Both groups are obviously as biased and agenda motivated as many other political entities out there.
I would personally have a hard time taking serious people who reference the ADL or Southern Poverty Law Center as their sources for making such determinations. Both groups are obviously as biased and agenda motivated as many other political entities out there.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:44 am to CptRusty
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The onion is intended to be satire, this clearly is intended to be taken seriously
No the site is meant to communicate an agenda of white supremacy, and white supremacy is only taken seriously by those that support it.
Sorry, I don't believe the guy that wrote it is, or ever was, a public defender. That is my opinion, and I don't really have any hard evidence to support that, nor does anyone have any that proves he is, or ever was, a public defender.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:56 am to ChewyDante
quote:LINK
Calling Amren a "hate group" is pretty ridiculous. It's effectively an interest group for whites that expresses a belief in a meaningful relationship between race and individual characteristics. Disagreeing with them is one thing, but there's nothing inherently "hateful" in their message.
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Last month, inspired by a series by National Public Radio called the “Race Card Project,” we invited readers to submit haiku-like six-word statements about race. We were overwhelmed by the quantity and quality of the submissions–which, as you can imagine, were rather different in tone from those submitted to NPR. As always, we are impressed by the wit and insight of our readers.
We chose the 34 best submissions, based on reader upvotes and our our own preferences. Each of the 34 is its own “comment” below, and we invited readers to vote for their favorite(s). We offered the author of the winning submission three books from our store.
And the winning “Race Card”:
“Whites create, Asians imitate, blacks desecrate.” — PvtCharlieSlate, 141 upvotes
PvtCharlieSlate, please send us a contact us with your address and the books you would like.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:59 am to Revelator
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I'm vaguely familiar with this case, but I don't think she asked God to bless her while she was committing these acts, but this was more a conversion after the fact?
You would be correct--Karla Faye Tucker didn't convert to Christianity until after her conviction.
The reason why people were petitioning for a commutation of her death sentence wasn't due to concerns over guilt, but that she was no longer a threat to society and a life sentence would serve the public interest as well as (if not better than) execution.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:07 am to Quidam65
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The reason why people were petitioning for a commutation of her death sentence wasn't due to concerns over guilt, but that she was no longer a threat to society and a life sentence would serve the public interest as well as (if not better than) execution.
There were two other motivations for commutation:
a. Texas had not executed a female in something like 100 years.
b. Dems wanted to put the pressure on Gov George Bush. One choice = cold heartless woman killer. Other choice = soft on crime.
BTW, Karla's last meal was a salad. Gotta watch the figure.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:07 am to Strannix
quote:LINK
Amren is not a white supremacist website, I weep for the cowardly society we have become, when it is racist to tell the truth or share an opinion.
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Perhaps most characteristic of African thinking is an absence of abstraction. Africans rarely get beyond the concrete, present-oriented, visible, and tangible. Because the future is not tangible, it is difficult for Africans to think about it realistically. A man who is healthy may not understand the purpose of medical insurance. His mind may run no further than “I’m not sick now.” Likewise, the need to maintain machinery is often lost on Africans. If the motor is running fine now, why change the oil? Because Africans often cannot imagine things that do not exist, they cannot work seriously towards future goals.
Dr. Valberg argued that without abstract thinking it is hard to imagine the feelings of others. At the worst extreme, Africans can torture each other with astonishing callousness, and at the everyday level, they are often indifferent to or even unaware of their own rudeness or inconsiderateness. To be considerate requires an ability to imagine the feelings of others.
South Africa is often called the rape capital of the world, but Dr. Valberg believes Africans do not fully grasp the concept of rape. They have been told that “rape” is a bad thing, yet most African men do not think it wrong to force a woman to have sex. This unthinking acceptance of the actions that constitute rape makes it difficult to prosecute rapists. Dr. Valberg also said that for most Africans, romantic love does not exist, and sex is the only thing that draws men and women together.
Lack of abstract thinking can be an advantage. Africans are almost never introspective or self-conscious. They are only rarely neurotic, and Dr. Valberg suspects that impotence is essentially unheard of among them.
Dr. Valberg noted that although American blacks have higher IQs and operate at a higher level than African blacks, they exhibit many of the same tendencies.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:08 am to ChewyDante
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Calling Amren a "hate group" is pretty ridiculous. It's effectively an interest group for whites that expresses a belief in a meaningful relationship between race and individual characteristics. Disagreeing with them is one thing, but there's nothing inherently "hateful" in their message.
I've never read American Renaissance, but I'm pretty familiar with racialism and some of its most prolific adherents. Disparaging other races and interracial interaction is a pretty important part of the ideology. There were long discussions on Stormfront as to whether blacks were actually a distinct sub-species not fully related to other homo sapiens.
If being a hate group requires that an organization's central tenets include racial violence, then perhaps they aren't a "hate group". But let's not confuse White Nationalism for anything other than the retread neo-Nazi tripe that it is.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:08 am to Wolfhound45
quote:Apparently, I don't get out much. I've heard if storm front but before this thread, I'd never even heard of this American renaissance site
It's the most widely read WN (White Nationalist) site in the US.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:12 am to ShortyRob
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Apparently, I don't get out much. I've heard if storm front but before this thread, I'd never even heard of this American renaissance site
WH's original question to me was about Stormfront. My post was about them. I don't have much experience with American Renaissance.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:14 am to Navytiger74
I highly recommend this book:
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:16 am to bhtigerfan
quote:LINK
And just because you and other libtards and the leftist organizations label it a white supremacist site means nothing.
quote:Proving this website is white supremacist literally involves clicking random articles.
Although today’s myth requires us to believe that blacks were constantly chafing under the restrictions of pre-1960s “racism,” the “civil rights” movement was largely manufactured by whites. Especially in the south, many blacks were not at all unhappy with secure, comfortable and, yes, subordinate relations with whites whom they liked and respected.
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