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re: Concerning guns and the mentally ill: a look into the recent political past

Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:55 am to
Consider this scenario: An Iraq war vet who has transitioned to civilian life well but does not do well in crowds. No signs of violence or outbursts, just general anxiety so this person avoids large crowds as a result. Sees VA psychologist about it. The psychologist decides to say veteran suffers from PTSD, which one can argue is a mental illness.

Here we have a law-abiding citizen who had once taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution, you would have their constitutional rights denied.

This is why people have a problem with generalized blanket restrictions like this. The term can be thrown around easily enough that it covers a large group of people who would otherwise not apply to.

If you don't get that, you're nothing more than a useful idiot of a tyrannical elite that use weasel methods like this to further push an agenda.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:57 am to
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Why did you ignore that we said he should have been visited by the FBI when they warned twice about him?


On what grounds?
It's not like the kid dressed up like a dog or anything crazy like that....
Posted by Aristo
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:59 am to
Yet prior to Obama's feel good legislation it was still happening, wonder why?
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:01 am to
Lmao. This is awesome

This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by TexasTiger86
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:16 am to
Local police were contacted numerous times about Cruz’s behavior. Several people have come out saying he threatened them. The FBI spokesman even said there was a failure on their part to follow up on tips that Cruz was dangerous. He even posted on a YouTube video that he was going to be “a professional school shooter.” All the signs were there for someone who was incredibly dangerous and the police did nothing.

He is absolutely mentally ill, but the reasons he needed to be brought in by the police have to do with his words and actions.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 10:18 am
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:19 am to
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Before. But under Trump's repeal his ownership status couldn't even be questioned.




You are embarrassing yourself
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:19 am to
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You are embarrassing yourself


Might as well pack this thread up. Rex isn't coming back.
Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:28 am to
I believe CA originally posted it. I just got it from here.
TD: Your gatewaypundit has reached a new low
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:15 am to
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Here we have a law-abiding citizen who had once taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution, you would have their constitutional rights denied.

You obviously can't read. Obama's regulation would not have automatically denied him gun ownership.

How many of you dullards are going to raise the same stupid point?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:16 am to
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How many of you dullards are going to raise the same stupid point?

Says the tool yammering shitgibbon.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:16 am to
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He is absolutely mentally ill, but the reasons he needed to be brought in by the police have to do with his words and actions.

Really? Had he previously killed anybody?
Posted by Bourre
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:17 am to
Those red heads are a firey bunch

(Sleeps next to one every night)
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:18 am to
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You obviously can't read. Obama's regulation would not have automatically denied him gun ownership.

How many of you dullards are going to raise the same stupid point?

So what did the regulations say and how would it have prevented this?
Posted by Pechon
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Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:24 pm to
Funny how the only official text I can find is this fact sheet from the Obama white house and does not specifically mention veterans. LINK

Yet the VA has taken into account for itself to do so under Obama's administration prior to the EO. The EO did nothing to protect veterans. So looks like you can't read either.

The point I was trying to make is that there was an effort to deny someone their 2nd amendment right through a government agency. Someone can determine you mentally incompetent for any number of reasons, say wearing a fur suit, and without due process deny someone their rights. The EO does the same thing.

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