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Communism vs “Facsism”

Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:47 am
Posted by weev
Member since Jun 2019
69 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:47 am
Chaos vs Order
Culture vs Multiculture
Degenerate vs Normal

Understand that one side will ultimately be victorious and take complete power. Neo-liberal democracy is dying a quick death and thank God for that. We may actually have a chance to save civilization soon but please understand, baws, it’s going to be either us ruling as a strongman or the gulags. There won’t be any middle ground.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:11 am to
Nah, that’s dumb
Posted by weev
Member since Jun 2019
69 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:14 am to
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Nah, that’s dumb


Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67964 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:15 am to
Leftists will not rest until the entire human population consists of fly-covered savages crawling in the dust.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:16 am to
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Leftists will not rest until the entire human population consists of fly-covered savages crawling in the dust.



They'll be rich though behind their walls and armed security
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19528 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:31 am to
Communism and fascism both come from the left of the political spectrum.

Leftists would love for everybody to believe that fascism, and even nazism, come from the right, but they do not.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:33 am to
If I only had a choice between communism and fascism I would pick fascism, but that is probably more an indictment of how much I hate communism.

I disagree with both very strongly due to authoritarianism, and collectivism.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:36 am to
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Leftists would love for everybody to believe that fascism, and even nazism, come from the right, but they do not.



I got in an arguement about this. I looked up left vs right and its history. I agree with you whole heartedly. Nazism/fascism is very collectivist, and left leaning economically. Saying that though. The actual definition for left-right political scale puts fascism on the right, but I almost feel that definition has been altered over time to fit this paradigm.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19528 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:49 am to
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The actual definition for left-right political scale puts fascism on the right


I’ve heard leftists argue that nazism is on the right a few times, and that has “socialist” in the fricking name.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5189 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:50 am to
what is the difference between "Neo-liberal democracy" and liberal democracy? And what is the difference between liberal democracy and democracy?
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16923 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:09 am to
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Nah, that’s dumb


I'd say his ultimate assessment may be more accurate than we'd like to believe. Liberal democracy (aka the society our founders created) is a very precarious system to maintain and uphold. It necessitates a general homogeneity in culture, worldview, and civic duty/responsibility. When one faction exhibiting authoritarian ambitions reaches a certain threshold of power it becomes logical from a self-preservation perspective (one of nature's most powerful driving forces) to take authoritarian measures to prevent that faction from achieving that power and ultimately subjugating the opposition. This is why I find the authoritarian rise on the left so concerning. It necessarily leads to authoritarian counterbalance since democratic republics with limited state power aren't designed to dispatch with internal political philosophies, even those that openly seek its own destruction. Therefore Marxism fundamentally begets a rise in authoritarianism in any political environment in which it festers and gains influence.

No authoritarian system is ideal or desirable, I think this has been clearly demonstrated philosophically and empirically, but there are instances where it is logical and potentially necessary to counter a rival authoritarian force whereby other means are demonstrated to be ineffective or incapable. This is what makes the legitimization and popular spread of any authoritarian strain in a liberal democracy extremely destabilizing and dangerous. Fascism came to power, in every instance during the 20's and 30's, as a reaction to the legitimate threat of Communist take over of state power. The tolerance and rise of Marxism is the fundamental destabilizing force to any system predicated on liberty. For this reason, as I see it, there is no excuse for anyone on the conservative right or the traditional political left to tolerate the radical left and their Marxian rhetoric. I think too many have been very slow to recognize the very serious and long term threat this poses to the fundamental institutions of our society.

shite ain't hunky dory in this country right now and burying your head in the sand may be convenient for now but it's a recipe for national disaster. The best recipe is to destroy Marxism in its nest and to ALWAYS remain vigilant of its latency.
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:17 am to
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Communism and fascism both come from the left of the political spectrum.


The word Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party. They are called fascist but were just power hungry control freaks like the communist. Different flavors

Hitler gave the name to Volkswagen, which means "People's car" in English.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67964 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:19 am to
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Communism and fascism both come from the left of the political spectrum.


They sure look a lot alike don't they?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:32 am to
Fighting the good fight, even if your namesake is questionable at best
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8181 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:39 am to
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I’ve heard leftists argue that nazism is on the right a few times, and that has “socialist” in the fricking name.


The justification is that nazism had a strong component of Nationalism but I would argue so does every government outside a book on political theory. The reality is that the Nazis were right of the Communists but generally left of the mainstream American political parties.

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