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Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:33 am to dstone12
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You literally said your kids may not be the best at it.
Because they won't need to do it. I'm not shocked you're struggling with that concept though.
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I do not know what to say to you now.
You've said more than enough already.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:35 am to LNCHBOX
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Because they won't need to do it. I'm not shocked you're struggling with that concept though.
You most certainly do.
Cash is still a thing for folks that don’t sit at a desk and have food delivered for them.
You’re having trouble understanding that this nation still uses cash? Are you this dense?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:38 am to dstone12
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Cash is still a thing for folks that don’t sit at a desk and have food delivered for them.
You don't need to have food delivered to use an app, grandpa
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You’re having trouble understanding that this nation still uses cash? Are you this dense?
Nowhere have I said or insinuated such a thing. Having said that, most people are not using cash a vast majority of the time.
Be honest, you're the old lady holding up grocery lines writing a check
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:48 am to LNCHBOX
just to help y'all out
Jive can mean:
To mislead or deceive someone
To tease or make fun of someone
To taunt or sneer at someone
Glib, deceptive, or foolish talk
If one statement or opinion jibes with another, it is similar to it and matches it
Jive can mean:
To mislead or deceive someone
To tease or make fun of someone
To taunt or sneer at someone
Glib, deceptive, or foolish talk
If one statement or opinion jibes with another, it is similar to it and matches it
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:51 am to mikesliveisacheater
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No child left behind really meant holding back the exceptional students.
The left knows this and has two justifications:
a. They'll be OK anyway cause they are from privileged backgrounds.
or
b. They won't be OK and that will make society more equal.
Another bad side effect is that when you put high IQ kids in general phase classes they become bored. They find ways to amuse themselves in class that the teacher might not like.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:52 am to LNCHBOX
My son is 18 and I serious doubt he’s ever paid for anything with change.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:54 am to LNCHBOX
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Having said that, most people are not using cash a vast majority of the time.
Nowhere did I say that the vast majority is using cash. I said that this nation still uses cash. And quite a bit.
You said your kids may not be the best at counting said change (not me
), doin a lil math OR, having the idea to type it into the register and getting a five dollar bill out. Admit it, you’re the dumbass that got yelled at by grammas wanting a Big Mac and correct change back…..and YOU had a lil trouble with that. Use your smartphone, it’s got a calculator on it.
That got you bothered from the start of this thread, kiddo.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:54 am to dstone12
This is "prolly" the most incorrect post I've ever seen here.
Common Core, like the "New Math" that was similarly tried and rejected in the 1960s, is exactly what we need if we're going to educate engineers and scientists.
Learning long division and multiplication tables by rote is great (as OP seems to realize) for working the cashbox at an old-timey general store where people pay in cash. People should learn that stuff, but it has next to nothing to do with the actual practice of science and engineering in the 21st century.
Common Core gets into the real nature and theory of math- things like set theory and even different numerical bases. "Let's only do base 10 because I have 10 fingers" is a pretty Neanderthal take on math education, as is the notion that memorizing what 12 x 11 is will help anyone do engineering.
My elementary school teachers were reeeeally good at base 10 arithmetic done using procedures they'd blindly memorized. Anything beyond that and they fell flat on their faces. I remember asking my 6th grade teacher why division of fractions was done by inverting the numerator and denominator and multiplying, and she just stammered out something about how that's "just how it is."
The way of teaching math that parents and teachers are so damned attached to is just totally subpar. Common Core was an opportunity to go beyond that and really educate people, and its rejection (like so much of what happens in school nowadays) is profoundly depressing to me.
Common Core, like the "New Math" that was similarly tried and rejected in the 1960s, is exactly what we need if we're going to educate engineers and scientists.
Learning long division and multiplication tables by rote is great (as OP seems to realize) for working the cashbox at an old-timey general store where people pay in cash. People should learn that stuff, but it has next to nothing to do with the actual practice of science and engineering in the 21st century.
Common Core gets into the real nature and theory of math- things like set theory and even different numerical bases. "Let's only do base 10 because I have 10 fingers" is a pretty Neanderthal take on math education, as is the notion that memorizing what 12 x 11 is will help anyone do engineering.
My elementary school teachers were reeeeally good at base 10 arithmetic done using procedures they'd blindly memorized. Anything beyond that and they fell flat on their faces. I remember asking my 6th grade teacher why division of fractions was done by inverting the numerator and denominator and multiplying, and she just stammered out something about how that's "just how it is."
The way of teaching math that parents and teachers are so damned attached to is just totally subpar. Common Core was an opportunity to go beyond that and really educate people, and its rejection (like so much of what happens in school nowadays) is profoundly depressing to me.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:55 am to dstone12
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There are plenty of people out there with great minds that got ruined by hack learning. Prior administrations wanted cheap doctors and engineers. Are we better for it? Get back to foundational learning that got America to its prior greatness.
Are you saying that Americans arent the greatest at everything??? Why do you hate America? You globalist cuck.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:55 am to dstone12
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Nowhere did I say that the vast majority is using cash. I said that this nation still uses cash. And quite a bit.
You said your kids may not be the best at counting said change (not me ), doin a lil math OR, having the idea to type it into the register and getting a five dollar bill out.
Admit it, you’re the dumbass that got yelled at by grammas wanting a Big Mac and correct change back…..and YOU had a lil trouble with that. Use your smartphone, it’s got a calculator on it.
That got you bothered from the start of this thread, kiddo.
You're gonna have to learn how to get a coherent thought out.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:00 am to LNCHBOX
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You're gonna have to learn how to get a coherent thought out.
So your next thought is a non sequitur response.
Got it.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:01 am to dstone12
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So your next thought is a non sequitur response.
Got it.
You've proven yourself to not be worth much effort at this point.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:05 am to LNCHBOX
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Nowhere did I say that the vast majority is using cash. I said that this nation still uses cash. And quite a bit. You said your kids may not be the best at counting said change (not me ), doin a lil math OR, having the idea to type it into the register and getting a five dollar bill out.
I 100% addressed the fact that we still use cash, per your prior post.
I addressed YOUR comment about YOUR kids not being the best at counting change.
And you serve up two tapouts on a row.
Great job
I think you’ve proven that you don’t want to put the effort into it anymore.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:09 am to dstone12
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I addressed YOUR comment about YOUR kids not being the best at counting change.
My kids are 8 and 4, you fricking dunce. There is almost zero reason they will even need counting change to be a skill. I'm sure they will be more than capable of doing the math if necessary.
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I think you’ve proven that you don’t want to put the effort into it anymore.
Considering I explicitly said I don't want to put any more effort into this, congrats. You're just rambling a this point like an old man screaming at the clouds.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:12 am to mikesliveisacheater
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George W did long-term damage with his No Child Left Behind policy
Never forget who wrote the bill, Ted Kennedy.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:22 am to LNCHBOX
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Considering I explicitly said I don't want to put any more effort into this, congrats
You seem to be using your tech and posting quite a bit after you said this, child.
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I'm sure they will be more than capable of doing the math if necessary.
Okay. That’s better
But Mentioning “they will be more than fine to do it” vs “my kids will not be the best at it….so you’re a geezer that cannot use technology because you use cash” is simply the dumbest thing said in this thread. Now you’re just pointing the finger after two intellectual tapouts from before.
You’re right man. It’s not worth it for you.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:25 am to LNCHBOX
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It's more amazing in 2025 that some dork is carrying exact change to order fast food instead of using an app to have the food waiting for him all while earning rewards and is mad a younger person doesn't understand his outdated practices.
lol imbecile
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:27 am to LNCHBOX
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My kids are 8 and 4
Have you transitioned them yet?
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I'm sure they will be more than capable of doing the math if necessary.
They'll be imbeciles just like dear old child abuser Dad.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:29 am to mikesliveisacheater
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No child left behind really meant holding back the exceptional students.
We peaked internationally 8 years after NCLB was instituted, which is not surprising because those international tests are for High Schoolers.
Common core was a cult where teachers wanted to have more interesting things to teach. It completely ignored that repetition and phonetics are proven to be significantly better at developing knowledge in children.
We really need to get education to be better. Our colleges are actually top notch in the world. Once a kid escapes 12th grade with enough potential then the world is theirs for the taking.
As long as they don't start smoking weed and fck it up. (Seriously kids wait till you are 25 and do the gummies weed before 25 is going to reduce your chances of success).
To those who think basic math is passé, I would not trust anyone working for me who has less than a firm grasp on math. 90% of the engineering process happens mentally. The relations between things are often easily described as mathematical in nature, software processes numbers, but the developer needs to have a strong mental picture of what he wants and how to error check.
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