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Posted on 3/25/14 at 8:57 pm to LSU2001
quote:Not for 4th grade kids, nitwit.
Was that not a valid political concern about a potential presidential candidate?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 8:59 pm to alajones
I am not saying that there is not some indoctrination happening. I'm saying it has always been there but common core has created enough interest from the public to call it out.
Common Core standards did not cause this
Common Core standards did not cause this
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:07 pm to LSU2001
quote:
Common Core standards did not cause this
You do realize that CC has a list of approved materials, right?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:11 pm to LSU2001
I know. I remember being taught all about the greenhouse effect and the ozone layer as a kid in the 80's. Indoctrination has been going on a while.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:11 pm to LSU2001
quote:
History is not a collection of facts or dates, history is a telling of events and being able to critically examine the author's interpretation is key to understanding the events.
This.
But the outrage is damn entertaining, so please don't derail them.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:13 pm to alajones
quote:In the 80's you were probably taught there was no more ozone layer left.
I remember being taught all about the greenhouse effect and the ozone layer as a kid in the 80's
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:17 pm to asurob1
quote:
This.
But the outrage is damn entertaining, so please don't derail them.
No one disagreed with that quote. History is obviously a narrative. Now, explain where the investigation into the author's intent took place for the statement on that worksheet.
History being a narrative doesn't mean you pass off statements that lack any credible supporting evidence as fact.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:18 pm to Alahunter
quote:
rewritten history books
like the King James Bible?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:19 pm to NC_Tigah
We were taught there wouldn't be one in 20 years. Damn McDonald's Big Mac boxes.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:23 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:quote:History being a narrative doesn't mean you pass off statements that lack any credible supporting evidence as fact.
please don't derail them.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:41 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
History being a narrative doesn't mean you pass off statements that lack any credible supporting evidence as fact.
So the UN wasn't formed?
9/11 didn't happen.
etc
etc
etc
History is a narrative subject to interpretation. Winners write the history of wars.
This is too much adieu about nothing. Standardized testing has been a part of kids educations since I was a kid.
But by all means blame the "liberal" bogeyman. I mean we are trying to indoctrinate everyone.
Amirite?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:43 pm to Alahunter
I posted this in another thread recently. It seems appropriate here.
"I met with the director of curriculum as well as the English and math curriculum directors for my son's school district. I went into this meeting having learned all I could about common core state standards (CCSS). My son will be a freshman in high school next year. He's taken all advanced courses up to this point so I was concerned about all of this.
I spent an entire afternoon with them. I was able to look at the curriculum in detail. There was nothing remotely similar to this kind of stuff. The math was more difficult but not because it was confusing. The English work was the same.
After all the time researching CCSS and the meetings I had with these people I believe that the standards have changed but it will be up to each state to develop their own curriculum or to use someone else's curriculum. My son's school district has traditionally been very good and they are showing this by developing what materials are appropriate. They are also using ACT and SAT scores as an outcome measure even though this is not required.
Historically, changing standards doesn't really do much at all. The low-performance schools will stay that way and the high-performance schools will continue to perform at a high level.
I am NOT defending CCSS at all. I don't like how this came about or the players involved in using the kids as guinea pigs. I'm sharing my experience only."
"I met with the director of curriculum as well as the English and math curriculum directors for my son's school district. I went into this meeting having learned all I could about common core state standards (CCSS). My son will be a freshman in high school next year. He's taken all advanced courses up to this point so I was concerned about all of this.
I spent an entire afternoon with them. I was able to look at the curriculum in detail. There was nothing remotely similar to this kind of stuff. The math was more difficult but not because it was confusing. The English work was the same.
After all the time researching CCSS and the meetings I had with these people I believe that the standards have changed but it will be up to each state to develop their own curriculum or to use someone else's curriculum. My son's school district has traditionally been very good and they are showing this by developing what materials are appropriate. They are also using ACT and SAT scores as an outcome measure even though this is not required.
Historically, changing standards doesn't really do much at all. The low-performance schools will stay that way and the high-performance schools will continue to perform at a high level.
I am NOT defending CCSS at all. I don't like how this came about or the players involved in using the kids as guinea pigs. I'm sharing my experience only."
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
In the 80's you were probably taught there was no more ozone layer left.
Yep....according to all of these liberal "scientists" we should have basically all frozen to death by now
They were scaring people to brace for an ice age in the 70's
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:01 pm to deltaland
quote:
Common Core is the worst thing to happen to schools. It is pure propaganda and indoctrination.
It is horrible. It is also ridiculous to think it will improve standards of learning.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:06 pm to Alahunter
You form a militia and see how fast the ATF is knocking at your door. So clearly thats not what it means.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:10 pm to Alahunter
I'm actually shocked that is a lesson in a Bryant school. The proverbial shite may hit the fan over this. Bryant is a very conservative town.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:35 pm to Alahunter
That is not part of any defined common core curriculum. I call bullshite.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm to NC_Tigah
just more attempts by a radical administration to slowly ensure a left wing transformation for years to come
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:41 pm to LSU2001
quote:
But you can confirm that this report is inaccurate, since there are no social studies common core standards.
I agree with this statement.
quote:
English Language Arts Standards » History/Social Studies » Grade 6-8
Key Ideas and Details:
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.1
Cite specific textual evidence to support analysis of primary and secondary sources.
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.2
Determine the central ideas or information of a primary or secondary source; provide an accurate summary of the source distinct from prior knowledge or opinions.
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.3
Identify key steps in a text's description of a process related to history/social studies (e.g., how a bill becomes law, how interest rates are raised or lowered).
Craft and Structure:
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.4
Determine the meaning of words and phrases as they are used in a text, including vocabulary specific to domains related to history/social studies.
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.5
Describe how a text presents information (e.g., sequentially, comparatively, causally).
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.6
Identify aspects of a text that reveal an author's point of view or purpose (e.g., loaded language, inclusion or avoidance of particular facts).
Integration of Knowledge and Ideas:
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.7
Integrate visual information (e.g., in charts, graphs, photographs, videos, or maps) with other information in print and digital texts.
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.8
Distinguish among fact, opinion, and reasoned judgment in a text.
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.9
Analyze the relationship between a primary and secondary source on the same topic.
Range of Reading and Level of Text Complexity:
CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RH.6-8.10
By the end of grade 8, read and comprehend history/social studies texts in the grades 6-8 text complexity band independently and proficiently.
The other grades are similar but I don't want to text spam.
English Language Arts Standards » History/Social Studies
These standard have nothing to do with social studies material at all, just how to properly decipher it.
As for the Topic
List of Common Core Text Exemplars for Social Science Grades 6-12
Please note that states aren't required to use this list.
The books we are looking for are
United States History: Preparing for the Advanced Placement Examination:
The Americans (history textbook):
I can't find the book name of this
quote:
Informational texts 6-8: History/social studies (Grades 6-8)............................................................93
United States. Preamble and First Amendment
to the United States Constitution. (1787, 1791) ...................................................93
Lord, Walter. A Night to Remember .............................................................................93
Isaacson, Phillip. A Short Walk through the Pyramids
and through the World of Art ...................................................................................93
Murphy, Jim. The Great Fire.............................................................................................94
Greenberg, Jan, and Sandra Jordan. Vincent Van Gogh:
Portrait of an Artist .......................................................................................................94
Partridge, Elizabeth. This Land Was Made for You and Me:
The Life and Songs of Woody Guthrie ..................................................................94
Monk, Linda R. Words We Live By:
Your Annotated Guide to the Constitution ..........................................................95
Freedman, Russell. Freedom Walkers:
The Story of the Montgomery Bus Boycott ..............95
Informational texts: History/social studies (grades 9-10) ..........................................................130
Brown, Dee. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee:
An Indian History of the American West ............................................................130
Connell, Evan S. Son of the Morning Star: Custer and the Little Bighorn ....130
Gombrich, E. H. The Story of Art, 16th Edition .........................................................131
Kurlansky, Mark. Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World .....131
Haskins, Jim. Black, Blue and Gray: African Americans in the Civil War ........131
Dash, Joan. The Longitude Prize ..................................................................................132
Thompson, Wendy. The Illustrated Book of Great Composers .........................132
Mann, Charles C. Before Columbus: The Americas of 1491 .................................133
Informational texts: History/social studies (grade 11-CCR) ...........................................................172
Tocqueville, Alexis de. Democracy in America ........................................................172
Declaration of Sentimentsby the Seneca Falls Conference ..............................172
Douglass, Frederick. “What to the Slave Is the Fourth of July?:
An Address Delivered in Rochester, New York, on 5 July 1852.” ................173
An American Primer. Edited by Daniel J. Boorstin ................................................175
Lagemann, Ellen Condliffe. “Education.” ...................................................................175
McPherson, James M. What They Fought For 1861–1865 ....................................175
The American Reader: Words that Moved a Nation, 2nd Edition .....................175
Amar, Akhil Reed. America’s Constitution: A Biography .....................................176
McCullough, David. 1776 ..................................................................................................176
Bell, Julian. Mirror of the World: A New History of Art ........................................176
FedViews by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco ..................................177
Common Core Text Exemplars and Samples
Hmmm... None of the Books are on the Common Core list of Text Exemplars
This article is prime grade BS. This is either part of Arkansas curriculum or something a teacher chose individually. These books could be in any states education regardless of common core because common core doesn't force you to use only those books. Arkansas has adopted the common core standard.
I'm disappointed in how many people fall for this crap. I don't understand how people use bogus websites as their source that in themselves use other bogus websites as their source. Its like your creating your own reality to satisfy you confirmation biased.
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