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re: Comey indictment misquotes Comey. Bad form for a prosecution involving what was said.

Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Are you saying he didn't stand by it? Literal truth is a defense to perjury.


Are you saying he literally stood by it? As in physically with his body?

That would still be perjury.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Still. Devlin


frick that little troll
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:30 pm to
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wouldn't think it would be likely you get 12 of them.


If there are more than 12 people in all of the United States that would come to that conclusion we're fricked.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:31 pm to
Just found one of Comey’s motions to dismiss the indictment:

Comey Memorandum in Support of Motion to Dismiss
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:34 pm to
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JD. Thanks.


LSU. The LLM is more impressive. Was hoping you’d ask me that.

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You're saying I'm not a litigator because I make definitive predictions. It's an opinion board!


And your opinion is fine. But making a definitive statement about what would happen in court is rule #1 litigators stay away from. If you litigate, you know ANYTHING can happen in court.


I have lost cases where the law was absolutely clear…but the state judge didn’t like it. You don’t think that can happen in federal court? I was a clerk for a federal judge. It’s much more subjective than you think. And that doesn’t even take into account to consideration a jury is made up of lay persons. That’s why I say you aren’t a litigator. No litigator makes definitive statements.

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Anyhow, sorry for getting hot under the collar. I'm just blown away by the incompetence of shown in the indictment. Not many others are surprised. I can live with that.


All good, friend. I get a little condescending myself. I don’t think the failures of the indictment are fatal. You disagree. All good. I’d imagine we could have a beer and have a lively debate over it.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 6:38 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:35 pm to
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Are you saying he literally stood by it? As in physically with his body?



It just means "I wouldn't change my testimony." The burden would be on the prosecution to prove that he would have changed his testimony. Not sure how they would do that ( in the unlikely event this case makes it to trial ) without Comey testifying.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:36 pm to
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frick that little troll


I got kicked out of his “minority”. Study group. I am not Mexican enough. Halfies. Need not apply. He’s a good enough guy. When you can’t do…teach.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:36 pm to
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It just means "I wouldn't change my testimony."


Correct. A restatement.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:37 pm to
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All good, friend. I get a little condescending myself. I don’t think the failures of the indictment are fatal. You disagree. All good. I’d imagine we could have a beer and have a lively debate over it.


Absolutely. I won't say the year, I clerked for Judge Walter in Monroe. You?
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:39 pm to
Not to you BB, but a general comment.
I'm using this thread as a example to grandson showing how a hand full of lawyers can frick around the bush for 3 hours and and accomplish absolutely nothing.

Is this a great country or what?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:39 pm to
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Absolutely. I won't say the year, I clerked for Judge Walter in Monroe. You?


Same. Judge Brady. RIP in peace.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57185 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:40 pm to
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Not to you BB, but a general comment. I'm using this thread as an example to grandson showing how a hand full of lawyers can frick around the bush for 3 hours and and accomplish absolutely nothing.


and not one minute billed. Amazing!


Though it is a good lesson. SFP and I disagree on this. I respect him. I think he respects me. And we can argue non stop about it. It is what happens in court all the time. Rational minds can disagree.


Though I wish I could bill for my time here.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:42 pm to
Summer after 1L year I had him for admin law. He announced he didn't do the participation adjustments and I was already not reading for class. Before class he asks me if I did the reading and I said no. When he starts class, "Mr. SFP, what did you think about x-case?" to embarrass me.

Little did he know not only how little of a shite I gave (other than not reading anymore I had my grades that made failing out impossible), but other people in the class knew that, too.

So I just immediately replied, "I told you before class I didn't do the reading" and like 10 people laughed at him and a bunch got upset for him for trying to embarrass me. Safe to say I did not get a good grade in that class.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:42 pm to
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I'm using this thread as a example to grandson showing how a hand full of lawyers can frick around the bush for 3 hours and and accomplish absolutely nothing.


I was at home due to a "we will arrive between noon and 5" appointment that didn't show up until 430pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:43 pm to
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I don’t think the failures of the indictment are fatal. You disagree.


Actually, upon reflection, discussion with you AND the fact that Comey's attorneys didn't raise it their motion to dismiss (linked above), I'm coming around to THIS issue not being fatal to the indictment.

Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:43 pm to
07-08. What does that have to do with what I said?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:43 pm to
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Though I wish I could bill for my time here.

Easy fix: adjust to a revenue model outside of hourly billing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:44 pm to
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What does that have to do with what I said?


If your initial appearance was

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07-08


Then you never saw anything close to, "you definitely use to be a raging lib."

Anything past fall 2005 fails that test.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57185 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:44 pm to
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So I just immediately replied, "I told you before class I didn't do the reading" and like 10 people laughed at him and a bunch got upset for him for trying to embarrass me. Safe to say I did not get a good grade in that class.


I did ok in his class. Maraist single handedly brought my GPA down by .5. And it is so upsetting to me. Because 3 months of court I knew more about evidence than he ever taught me.

I don’t blame them though. I taught an undergrad commercial law class. And I just didn’t care. I’d imagine that’s where they are at.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:46 pm to
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Same. Judge Brady. RIP in peace.


Sorry to hear that about Judge Brady. Universally respected. Judge Walter is almost 90.
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