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re: Comey indictment misquotes Comey. Bad form for a prosecution involving what was said.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:08 pm to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:08 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Probably some trash presiding, resulting in a trash outcome.
Trash facts = bad outcome, is a better description
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None of this is true.
The irony
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:09 pm to BBONDS25
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His testimony was a restatement of his former testimony.
Then say that in the indictment.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:10 pm to jorconalx
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No, you definitely use to be a raging lib.
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Member since Aug 2011
What is your former screen name?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:10 pm to BBONDS25
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Tat rational whatever username is him.
Yea I couldn’t remember the user name
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Then say that in the indictment.
Not required. As I mentioned. I would have added a sentence clarifying it…but the requirements were met. Unless you allege Comey doesn’t know what he is being charged with and why.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is your former screen name
Don’t have one.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:11 pm to moneyg
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SFPs stance is that Comey stands by a lie.
Well as we said, the lie part is still up for debate.
But "standing for" a lie is not the same thing as lying in testimony. There is a distinction. Like I said, vicarious perjury, which is apparently a new concept.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:12 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Sfp and ivory.
Look at the relentlessly dishonest piece of shite that is agreeing with you and reflect.
Rational analysis isn't a team sport, sport.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Didn't Comey lie about it later than in 2007 in sworn testimony? If so, the statute of limitations extends from the latest lie.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:13 pm to jorconalx
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Don’t have one.
When did you start lurking, then?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:13 pm to BBONDS25
JD. Thanks.
You're saying I'm not a litigator because I make definitive predictions. It's an opinion board!
Anyhow, sorry for getting hot under the collar. I'm just blown away by the incompetence of shown in the indictment. Not many others are surprised. I can live with that.
You're saying I'm not a litigator because I make definitive predictions. It's an opinion board!
Anyhow, sorry for getting hot under the collar. I'm just blown away by the incompetence of shown in the indictment. Not many others are surprised. I can live with that.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But "standing for" a lie is not the same thing as lying in testimony. There is a distinction. Like I said, vicarious perjury, which is apparently a new concept.
You know I respect you as a person and as an attorney. I’ve seen you in court. You are a skilled litigator.
So I ask this earnestly. Is saying “I stand by my testimony” not a restatement of that testimony in your opinion?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:16 pm to Tigergreg
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Didn't Comey lie about it later than in 2007 in sworn testimony? If so, the statute of limitations extends from the latest lie.
The last alleged lie under oath was the 2020 testimony he gave to Ted Cruz which is the subject of this thread.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Which he lied.
That is obvious unless English is perhaps your second language.
Do I need to get your address and call ice?
That is obvious unless English is perhaps your second language.
Do I need to get your address and call ice?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:18 pm to BBONDS25
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Is saying “I stand by my testimony” not a restatement of that testimony in your opinion?
Not specifically. Cruz asked a bad question and Comey answered it vaguely. Cruz could have just followed up with, "so you're testifying today that your testimony in 2017 was truthful?" in a more direct way and made him commit.
Just like the adoption argument. All Cruz had to do was ask him if he adopted his former testimony.
Using an vague idiom like "stand by" obfuscates the entire endeavor. Intentionally, I imagine.
That's on Cruz
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:20 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Which he lied.
He said he stood by his previous testimony. Are you saying he didn't stand by it? Literal truth is a defense to perjury.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But "standing for" a lie
Did you mean “standing by”?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Using an vague idiom like "stand by" obfuscates the entire endeavor. Intentionally, I imagine.
That’s a fair argument. Though I think a layman (juror) understands what he said. I don’t think tossing the indictment on that alone is proper. If there are other deficiencies then toss it. But that alone,to me, is not fatal.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:25 pm to BBONDS25
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Though I think a layman (juror) understands what he said.
Sure. I'm not speaking in absolutes and that would be a factual determination. I wouldn't think it would be likely you get 12 of them.
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I don’t think tossing the indictment on that alone is proper
Oh I'm not arguing that.
And I argued that the other text issues in the indictment almost assuredly can be corrected via amendment. I just don't know what nucleus-relating standard they use.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Will be Interesting to see what happens. I remember Devlin bragging about getting something thrown out on procedure. And I recall thinking “man…what a bone head you must be to lose a case on procedure.” Happens all too often, though.
Still. Devlin is no Bockrath.
Still. Devlin is no Bockrath.
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