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re: Colorado High School recites Pledge in Arabic. Heads explode.

Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:36 am to
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:36 am to
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My question is... why did they even have to say the pledge in a different language in the first place? What's the benefit of it? What's the point?




What's the point in saying the pledge in the first place? What's the benefit?
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:36 am to
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why did they even have to say the pledge in a different language in the first place?


It's school. We expect kids to learn new things. Languages and other parts of the world are a key part of the curriculum. It's not really that new...
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:37 am to
I'm not arguing that.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:37 am to
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Where does it state that the upset parents in Colorado are "advocating that the gov't deny someone a right to free speech"?


You said the same thing could be said about liberals and free speech. I am waiting for you to back up that assertion.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:38 am to
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religion in school is only appropriate when its their religion.

When its the brown ppl's religion, its a problem.




Two can play that game.


Freedom of speech is only appropriate when it supports liberal views.

When it's tea party/conservative hatred being spewed, it's a problem.


This analogy forces me to categorize you as a dumbass.

So, in Arabic, you want the kids to say "I pledge allegiance, to the Christian God..."

Times have changed. "God" needs to be removed from the pledge. This country has citizens of dozens of religions, as well as an increasing population of non-religious.

Deal with it.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:39 am to
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It's school. We expect kids to learn new things. Languages and other parts of the world are a key part of the curriculum. It's not really that new...
Don't hand me that nonsense. They weren't learning Spanish or Arabic or learning about other cultures from reading the pledge in a different language.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:39 am to
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My question is... why did they even have to say the pledge in a different language in the first place? What's the benefit of it? What's the point?


Typical American. Why venture outside the tiny box.
Posted by Anfield Road
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:40 am to
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What's the point in saying the pledge in the first place? What's the benefit?


What's Conservative About the Pledge of Allegiance?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:41 am to
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Times have changed. "God" needs to be removed from the pledge. This country has citizens of dozens of religions, as well as an increasing population of non-religious.


let's go back to the original pledge. fricking liberals always going back and adding things to something completely good already.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:41 am to
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that isn't really a freedom of speech issue. Its a freedom of religion and business regulation.


Well you and I know that, but......
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:42 am to
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Don't hand me that nonsense. They weren't learning Spanish or Arabic or learning about other cultures from reading the pledge in a different language.



They were being exposed to the other languages.

Most people need to be exposed to something first before they are willing to learn about it.

It may have sparked someone into wanting to learn arabic. Maybe learn it to work for Army Intelligence.

But hey, you're right, frick other languages.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28000 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:43 am to
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Typical American. Why venture outside the tiny box.
Reading words in another language that you don't even know the translation of is pointless.

This has nothing to do with venturing anywhere.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:45 am to
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Don't hand me that nonsense. They weren't learning Spanish or Arabic or learning about other cultures from reading the pledge in a different language.
Maybe it was a social experiment to see how many people would be outraged by something that doesn't matter.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:45 am to
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What's Conservative About the Pledge of Allegiance?


There you go putting logic and historical fact into the argument.


You won't last long here.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:46 am to
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Reading words in another language that you don't even know the translation of is pointless.



Ok.



So are you in support of Immigrants not learnign English? We should just make sure everything is translated into their language so they can read it?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28000 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:47 am to
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They were being exposed to the other languages. Most people need to be exposed to something first before they are willing to learn about it. It may have sparked someone into wanting to learn arabic. Maybe learn it to work for Army Intelligence.
Thats just about the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard.

As if Americans have never heard other languages before.

Literally nobody is going to learn Arabic on their own because they recited the pledge in Arabic once before class.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:49 am to
You guys wanna go make a snow igloo?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28000 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:49 am to
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So are you in support of Immigrants not learnign English? We should just make sure everything is translated into their language so they can read it?
Holy frick you are stupid.

This has nothing to do with learning languages.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:50 am to
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As if Americans have never heard other languages before.



Ah yes, hearing something in a language you don't understand sounds like gibberish because you literally have no idea what they are supposed to be saying.


But, if you know what is being said, like the pledge, then you have context and you are able to follow along. It starts to peak an interest.

Context is an amazing thing.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:50 am to
Who cares? They obviously wanted to learn it. There doesn't need to be any further explanation.
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