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re: CNN national poll: Biden +16

Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:41 am to
Posted by aubie101
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:41 am to
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So you actually believe this shite over other polls with better backup that say something completely different


This poll is crap no doubt. But the general shift is toward Biden and it is hard not to recognize this. In my opinion it is Biden +4, not plus 16. Trump is underwater with many segments of the population.

The fact that Trump's polling looks (much) worse than 2016 should give some pause.

Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10753 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:13 am to
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The fact that Trump's polling looks (much) worse than 2016

But it doesn't. Battleground state polling is almost exactly what it was this on this day 4 years ago.



The question is, will the polls prove more accurate this time around?
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:14 am to
CNN poling....

Oxymoron
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10753 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:17 am to
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My advice to those who want a new and more accurate perspective of just how unpopular the guy is... travel outside the Deep South and stop going to dive bars.

Sure, there is a small segment of TDS infected people, especially in deep blue urban areas. Everyone here knows that.

But generally speaking, Trump's 46% approval rating per Gallup is almost identical to Obama's and Bush's at the same point in their presidencies.

Don't forget how hated Bush was by the code pink people, or Obama by the hardcore tea party people. Social media has made TDS top them all though.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120188 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:19 am to
Soy laden dorks in Brooklyn
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101655 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:21 am to
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I’m from Louisiana. I’ve lived in 3 other states. Trump, on average, is more hated than any public figure I’m aware of, ever.


The people who despise Trump are very ignorant. Many of them have high IQ's and make great money, but they are NPC's when it comes to Trump and his actual record.

Northwest liberals are less willing to have a substantive discussion than anyone I"ve ever met in the south or in Wisconsin. It's like a Fleccas Talk video with them - if you try to get them into a conversation with actual substance they will weasel out and say "I'm not going to seriously debate Donald Trump with you. That's insane."
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 11:22 am
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:22 am to
They probably don't normalize the data.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:22 am to
47 years of doing nothing is not sounding like a successful president
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:25 am to
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The fact that Trump's polling looks (much) worse than 2016 should give some pause.


This is simply not true for the state polls. According to RCP he is doing slightly better or almost exactly where he was at this point in 2016.

The national polls are worse for him...but we dont elect a president based on those.

Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:49 am to
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The people who despise Trump are very ignorant. Many of them have high IQ's and make great money, but they are NPC's when it comes to Trump and his actual record.

Northwest liberals are less willing to have a substantive discussion than anyone I"ve ever met in the south or in Wisconsin. It's like a Fleccas Talk video with them - if you try to get them into a conversation with actual substance they will weasel out and say "I'm not going to seriously debate Donald Trump with you. That's insane."[/quote

I have lived in every region of the us and in 5 foreign nations, none which spoke English natively. I have worked in 28 states. In my experience only Trump supporters and Republicans think anyone cares or agrees with their POV. Y’all immediately think 1 of 3 things.....the person you just me thinks idnentically as you do, because they look similar. Or maybe you think someone would care to hear your POV.....they don’t, for the record. The other possibility is you think, being aware of Q and all the conspiracies afoot to enslave white men that you must enlighten someone you just met. Again, when you say something along the lines of “masks violate my civil rights” sane people are not going to engage with you because it is rude and dangerous to do so with the mentally ill. Centrists and liberals seldom act the way Trumpkins do and mostly keep their views to themselves. Of course y’all deny this because it seems that the liberal POV is always in your face but that is merely because you are so far on the fringe of society that anything conflicting for you is not so for the vast majority of people in the world. When you are a dinosaur you see strange shite everyday......
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:53 am to
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CNN national poll: Biden +16
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So you actually believe this shite over other polls with better backup that say something completely different


This poll is crap no doubt. But the general shift is toward Biden and it is hard not to recognize this. In my opinion it is Biden +4, not plus 16. Trump is underwater with many segments of the population.

The fact that Trump's polling looks (much) worse than 2016 should give some pause.



NBC or somebody threw out a -12 9 days or so before the election in 2016
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101655 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:22 pm to
I’m talking about an honest conversation about the Paris climate accord and how we’ve saved hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars while still meeting all benchmarks. How about Trump’s zero new military conflicts? How about border security? They want nothing to do with an actual conversation with FACTS. I suspect neither do you.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27268 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:23 pm to
There is absolutely zero chance this is true.

Man election day is going to be really shocking to these morons...again.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101655 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:25 pm to
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The fact that Trump's polling looks (much) worse than 2016 should give some pause.

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Trump is on target for re-election if you look at the swing state polls and do some comparisons to 2016 and how the media is playing jazz as much as they can to spin things.
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