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CNN guest getting it wrong

Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:17 pm
Said hands in pocket can't argue self defense = false...the officer had black gloves on

Said her son has to comply with police even if he is right "or he will be killed for not complying"

We all have to comply...with law enforcement...

Said Victim was complying on the ground. "No reason for knee"

Uh...that's not true...police said they spent 10 minutes trying to get him in the car...

We have video before and after

But during is missing.

He ended up the other side of the vehicle. How?

Why?...because he was resisting to get in the vehicle
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22382 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Why?...because he was resisting


He died under the mans knee, was he still resisting then? What about as he struggled for breath and pled for his life..
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:19 pm to
That guest may be wrong about every one of those points, but once he was cuffed and on the ground he was no threat. He was no longer resisting. He was served the death penalty while handcuffed on the ground.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34759 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:20 pm to
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He died under the mans knee, was he still resisting then? What about as he struggled for breath and pled for his life
Yeah it's fair to resist having a knee to your neck?
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:21 pm to
i don't give a shite if he was resisting and i don't give a shite where the cops hands are.

the cop killed the dude. they could've been brawling for 10 minutes before, it doesn't matter. once he's cuffed and on the ground that's it...the fight is over. especially when there's 3 other cops right there. that's police academy 101
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49342 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:21 pm to
The man with his knee on the neck was one of three cops on top of him.

The knee was totally unnecessary for ten seconds, let alone 7 or more minutes.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22382 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

He died under the mans knee, was he still resisting then? What about as he struggled for breath and pled for his life Don't you think it's fair to resist having a knee to your neck?


Hell yeah I do. That was my point
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2374 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

The knee was totally unnecessary for ten seconds, let alone 7 or more minutes.
For the life of me I can't understand how anyone could disagree with this.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29792 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:38 pm to
He was about to be killed, he should have resisted to a greater extent.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

because he was resisting

No he wasn’t and multiple videos show that. The pig killed an innocent man in for no reason.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to
That cop looks like he weighs about 135 pounds. I doubt his knee would have enough weight to kill someone.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

That guest may be wrong about every one of those points, but once he was cuffed and on the ground he was no threat. He was no longer resisting. He was served the death penalty while handcuffed on the ground.




My point is, she made it sound like the police just do stuff for the hell of it for being black, ..that's seldom true, it's false in this case. WE have to protect true and not narrative go off the rails...

Can we guess the guy didn't want to go back to prison? ..

The victim also worked with this cop as a bouncer for years ...another twist (needs confirmation)

we're are being told by the medical examiner, his cause of death was not suffocation from the knee...ok, so what are they claiming is the reason for his death?

I see the video...I think the officer took it too far but sometimes even a video can be misleading...we can only believe what our eyes tell us and what we know to be true...this is a bad look for police, ...he is arrested...and charged 3 degree . I agree with this decision until further notice of more facts

my question is, why do we not have tape of the wresting match of this guy not going in the back seat of the car...3 police officers are on this guy...why? that doesn't just happen for no reason in broad daylight with guy already handcuffed

he ended up on the other side of the dang car...between each video

something happened, that something got 3 officer's pretty juiced...

I am not saying it justifies a dang thing

I am saying, I am tired of hearing people go on cNN and make false claims "he wasn't resisting"...

well in the 2 videos that may be true, but it can't be true putting 2 and 2 together...

again where is the missing footage?










Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

No he wasn’t and multiple videos show that



so why didn't the guy get in the car? I call that resisting

can you explain how he got to the street side of the SUV police vehicle, on the ground, face down, knee down with 3 cops on him when the end of the first video shows him not wanting to bend down to get in the back seat?

Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:52 pm to
no real way to defend the cop here
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

but once he was cuffed


he was cuffed for several minutes in video 1

calm, no problem, two police escort him across the street towards the vehicle designated to take him in...parked near the street corner

the last clip shows him not wanting to get in the backseat

end of clip...

next clip is viral...that shows the knee

so I ask you again, what happened in those moments?

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

no real way to defend the cop here


I am not doing that

I am saying we need to stop pretending former prisoners resisting to get a police car for apparent law breaking incident "did nothing"

all this leads black people who don't know the facts, don't know the man, start destroying other black people's property and businesses..

none of this should be happening...

but CNN let's guest and host spew false information...

just like they did with Mike Brown...

in this case we have a disturbing video...of a cop acting bad...he should have let up...best we can tell from our vantage point, it's all we have

everything else shows victim acting in good behavior...

we are being played again

This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

my question is, why do we not have tape of the wresting match of this guy not going in the back seat of the car...3 police officers are on this guy...why? that doesn't just happen for no reason in broad daylight with guy already handcuffed
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

The knee was totally unnecessary for ten seconds, let alone 7 or more minutes.
For the life of me I can't understand how anyone could disagree with this.



That's because you don't have access to video showing what led to man ending up on the other side of the vehicle...

Investigator to officer:


"When you were on the curb side of the vehicle trying to get him in the car, how did you end up with your knee on his neck on the other side of the car?"
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4099 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:04 pm to
Yeah there's no excuse for this. It's a murder. And it took them too long to charge him for it. Once he's in cuffs and not fighting, it doesn't matter how he got there. You don't get to kill them.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Yeah there's no excuse for this. It's a murder. And it took them too long to charge him for it. Once he's in cuffs and not fighting, it doesn't matter how he got there. You don't get to kill them.


now you people are making me upset because you fail to use logic with the evidence given to you


he was handcuffed for several minutes, did you see video 1?

1. He was calm (sitting down up against wall)
2. He was not resisting
3. Police ask him to get up, he gets up, he is escorted across the street by two officers, one each side
4. Back door open of SUV curb side, he wouldn't get in (end of video 1)
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