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Climate Change is real and the USA needs to take real action to combat it
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:24 am
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:24 am
Yes CC is real and human involvement is probably a contributing factor. Two of the biggest things that humans are doing to affect climate change are CO2 emissions and methane (CH4) emissions.
The USA has cut CO2 emissions as the entire EU (which is 28 countries), but unlike the EU our energy prices have not skyrocketed.
Ok now lets look at CH4 emissions because that is the hidden monster of natural gas.
Oh snap, those have fallen in the USA.
Screw the green new deal. The approach that the USA has taken since 1999 is working just as well as the EU's approach to reducing CO2 emissions and CH3 emissions are falling as well. Fracking is a more efficient way to reduce greenhouse gases and unlike the EU's approach it does not hurt the US consumer.
So liberals if you really want to stop climate change, you should tell AOC and the green new deal to take a hike and embrace frack baby frack!
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According to the 2017 BP Statistical Review of World Energy, since 2005 annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions have declined by 758 million metric tons. That is by far the largest decline of any country in the world over that timespan and is nearly as large as the 770 million metric ton decline for the entire European Union.
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The price of residential electricity has risen in lockstep with growth in renewable capacity in Europe but not in the US, and because of this European residential electricity rates are now roughly twice US rates.
The USA has cut CO2 emissions as the entire EU (which is 28 countries), but unlike the EU our energy prices have not skyrocketed.
Ok now lets look at CH4 emissions because that is the hidden monster of natural gas.
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Let us center on natural gas because it clearly has become our go-to fuel for new energy demand. Since 1990: Despite gas utilities adding over 730,000 miles of pipeline to serve almost 20 million more customers, yearly CH4 emissions from distribution systems have fallen 70-75%. Industry-wide natural gas emissions as a rate of production (the "leakage rate") is 1.2%, well below the threshold required to justify fuel switching to gas on environmental grounds. The ratio of methane emissions per unit of gas produced has plummeted 45%. Total CH4 emissions from gas systems have fallen 18%, even though production is up 55%.
Oh snap, those have fallen in the USA.
Screw the green new deal. The approach that the USA has taken since 1999 is working just as well as the EU's approach to reducing CO2 emissions and CH3 emissions are falling as well. Fracking is a more efficient way to reduce greenhouse gases and unlike the EU's approach it does not hurt the US consumer.
So liberals if you really want to stop climate change, you should tell AOC and the green new deal to take a hike and embrace frack baby frack!
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 8:36 am
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:26 am to WeeWee
quote:I don't think anyone can say that the climate of the planet is or ever has been static
Yes CC is real
But is climate change detrimental? no
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:27 am to WeeWee
Stats dont matter....its about the feels
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:28 am to WeeWee
I'll try to eat a couple of extra steaks per week to aid in cow population reduction, thus less cow farts.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:28 am to mylsuhat
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But is climate change detrimental? no
it's only detrimental if you don't want to boil to death in the ocean
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:31 am to WeeWee
Nothing a redistribution of wealth won't solve, right?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:31 am to Erin Go Bragh
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Nothing a redistribution of wealth won't solve, right?
you're on the right track!!
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:32 am to WeeWee
CH3 is not methane baw. CH4 is.
Now on point, I never understood the need to damage the economy by forcing “green” technology and not using cheap, reliable, efficient fuels sources in the US but allowing these sources to be utilized literally everywhere else not called the US or Europe.
The earth doesn’t give a shite where your lbs of CO2 (if it is even bad for the environment) or CH4 come from, they just care about the lbs. so shouldn’t we be curbing all greenhouse gas emissions everywhere and not just in the developed nations?
Now on point, I never understood the need to damage the economy by forcing “green” technology and not using cheap, reliable, efficient fuels sources in the US but allowing these sources to be utilized literally everywhere else not called the US or Europe.
The earth doesn’t give a shite where your lbs of CO2 (if it is even bad for the environment) or CH4 come from, they just care about the lbs. so shouldn’t we be curbing all greenhouse gas emissions everywhere and not just in the developed nations?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:33 am to TheFonz
No, no, no. If you do that then you’ll just create more demand for cows! You just go vegan and ride your bike (only if it’s not made with any hydrocarbon derivatives) to save the environment.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:34 am to Oilfieldbiology
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shouldn’t we be curbing all greenhouse gas emissions everywhere
yes!! but less-developed nations don't have the technology yet, that's why it's incumbent on the first world to lead the charge both by example and through direct assistance
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:35 am to mylsuhat
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But is climate change detrimental? no
It is not detrimental if we are proactive and prepare for the adverse outcomes of climate change. If we reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by the deadline all we will do is turn a 0.4°C temperature increase into a 0.2°C temperature increase.
Instead of spending trillions of dollars on a green new deal lets spend the money on things that will actually help us face the affects of climate change. Instead of billions of dollars on high speed rail in Cali, lets try spending billions building new reservoirs, desalination plants, and other methods to help Cali withstand a drought. Lets spend billions building sediment diversion channels to help rebuild the La wetlands which will absorb CO2 emissions and protect La from rising sea levels.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:35 am to WeeWee
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The latest United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report led Eric Holthaus, a Grist writer, to tweet enthusiastically, “The world’s top scientists just gave rigorous backing to systematically dismantle capitalism as a key requirement to maintaining civilization and a habitable planet.”
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Ending climate change requires the end of capitalism. Have we got the stomach for it?
Phil McDuff
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:36 am to TheFonz
quote:Downvoted for stealing my strategy
I'll try to eat a couple of extra steaks per week to aid in cow population reduction, thus less cow farts.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 am to lushen
All the dumb brown people of the world need our first world supervision and guidance, huh ? Imperialist!
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 am to lushen
You serious Clark? None of the technology is proprietary technology of developed nations.
Windmill and solar farm companies will gladly build their equipment in whatever country wants (or under the UN’s wet dream is required) to pay them.
Windmill and solar farm companies will gladly build their equipment in whatever country wants (or under the UN’s wet dream is required) to pay them.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 am to WeeWee
The climate will change, as it always has, regardless of what I do. The best I can do is adapt. Giving governments more of my money is not the solution.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 am to lushen
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less-developed nations don't have the technology yet
China has stolen pretty much every technology they are interested in, so why are they still one of the top producers?
The answer is, they don't give a shite about the environment, they are not going to give a shite about the environment BUT they will support anything that cripples the U.S. while giving them a leg up...
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:43 am to Oilfieldbiology
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CH3 is not methane baw. CH4 is.
Thanks for the correction. My chemistry is a little rusty. I have edited to correct it.
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Now on point, I never understood the need to damage the economy by forcing “green” technology and not using cheap, reliable, efficient fuels sources in the US but allowing these sources to be utilized literally everywhere else not called the US or Europe.
The earth doesn’t give a shite where your lbs of CO2 (if it is even bad for the environment) or CH4 come from, they just care about the lbs. so shouldn’t we be curbing all greenhouse gas emissions everywhere and not just in the developed nations?
Renewable energy sources in the developing nation is a better idea than forcing them on us. It is much easier and cheaper to adopt in the developing world because the electric grid is not as advanced so it should be easier in theory to install mini-grids there. The developing world does not have massive nuclear powerplants that they are wanting to replace with renewable energy sources and so they do not have to bear the cost of deactivated and decommissioning a nuclear power plant.
My comparison of the USA to the EU was to highlight the fact that what the USA has been doing is working just as well as what the EU has been doing. CC activists say we are doing nothing, but it is working.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:45 am to lushen
quote:Wouldn't you agree that the most effective and least cost-prohibitive measure would be to prevent the people in low per capita GHG producing nations (example: Mexico) from moving to high per capita GHG producing nations (example: USA)?
yes!! but less-developed nations don't have the technology yet, that's why it's incumbent on the first world to lead the charge both by example and through direct assistance
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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You just go vegan
Vegan farts are the worst.
One vegan farts as much as two cows.
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