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re: Clayton Lockett got what he deserved
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:20 am to Sentrius
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:20 am to Sentrius
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Anyway, y'all wouldn't believe what bleeding heart weaklings were tweeting last night. It pissed me off. It's like they forgot about the subhuman animal who the death penalty was being administered to and it's some innocent god fearing citizen in his place instead. Disgusting.
Where were most of these tweet coming from? Were they people mostly from the OK region or from progressive places?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:37 am to SpidermanTUba
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Should we bury the Constitution alive as well?
Are you questioning the Progressive goal?
What is more humane, killing a murderer or making the family of the victim pay for the support the murderer for decades.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Why on earth do people who have so much distrust and disdain for government believe they can trust the government in capital punishment cases to get them right?
I also find this very inconsistent.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:34 pm to DawgfaninCa
Hooray inhumanity!!!
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:52 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Nah. For all we know he didn't feel shite.
I just hope he was conscious enough to experience some of the same horror that he and his buddies inflicted on that poor young woman.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:23 pm to DawgfaninCa
Again, it's astonishing that so many that have so much distrust and disdain toward government have no issue with them putting citizens to death.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Again, it's astonishing that so many that have so much distrust and disdain toward government have no issue with them putting citizens to death.
And...crickets.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:39 pm to Jim Rockford
Hypocrites don't like to be called out for being hypocrites.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 5:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Again, it's astonishing that so many that have so much distrust and disdain toward government have no issue with them putting citizens to death.
I'm very conflicted about the practice of the death penalty ( not the idea of it, per se ). I celebrate no one's death but there are some cases where I can see it as close as we can get to justice. Raping and killing an 11 month old? I have little sympathy for him.
And it's not the government putting him to is death, it is citizens - a jury - who does this. I
Posted on 5/1/14 at 5:58 pm to LSUGrrrl
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And it's not the government putting him to is death, it is citizens - a jury - who does this.
I don't agree with this. Laws are an extension of government. The actual execution is carried out by government.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 5:59 pm to Tiguar
That is true. I said I was conflicted. But the decision to put him there wS done by his fellow citizens. Government isn't sentencing him to death.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 5:59 pm to LSUGrrrl
The government (attempts) to administer it. The government brings the charges against them and provides the jury with the evidence. The government has the power to stay the execution, keep the types of drugs secret.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:01 pm to Tiguar
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The actual execution is carried out by government.
and government is created by. . .
the people
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:01 pm to LSUGrrrl
Fair enough.
My issues with the death penalty vary from giving the government power to put citizens to death (regardless who makes the decision) and how efficient it actually is.
We have people on death row for decades- this seems pointless.
But, were it not for this, god knows how many innocent people would be executed. How many people have been proven innocent after being on death row for years?
So we have this catch 22 of inefficiency to a level of pointlessness but the inefficiency almost being necessary to prevent an atrocity.
Is this really something we need in our system? Is there a way to fix it? I don't know.
My issues with the death penalty vary from giving the government power to put citizens to death (regardless who makes the decision) and how efficient it actually is.
We have people on death row for decades- this seems pointless.
But, were it not for this, god knows how many innocent people would be executed. How many people have been proven innocent after being on death row for years?
So we have this catch 22 of inefficiency to a level of pointlessness but the inefficiency almost being necessary to prevent an atrocity.
Is this really something we need in our system? Is there a way to fix it? I don't know.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:02 pm to TrueTiger
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and government is created by. . .
the people
Using this logic, there is no limit to the expanse of government. After all, the people created it. You have to draw a line somewhere, and finding the appropriate place for that line is a continuing source of angst for me.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:03 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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keep the types of drugs secret.
My only issue.
Of course the government brings the charges against them & provides evidence. Citizens still make the decision. I'm conflicted with how it is carried out but not by the theory.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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it's astonishing that so many that have so much distrust and disdain toward government have no issue with them putting citizens to death.
actually I am very uneasy about it for this reason.
Government is abusing the shite out of its power from malicious prosecutions, selective application of laws, overly complex laws and militarized law enforcement.
I don't feel a thing for these thugs, but I am rethinking governments' application of the death penalty.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:09 pm to Tiguar
Government is like a nuclear reactor. It can be very useful and can help create a favorable environment.
But if you are not diligent and do not manage it very carefully, the damn thing will run away and destroy you with it.
But if you are not diligent and do not manage it very carefully, the damn thing will run away and destroy you with it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:09 pm to DawgfaninCa
Surprised this thread is still alive.
frick that dude. The state set out to kill him; he's dead. What's the problem?
frick that dude. The state set out to kill him; he's dead. What's the problem?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:14 pm to TrueTiger
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actually I am very uneasy about it for this reason.
Government is abusing the shite out of its power from malicious prosecutions, selective application of laws, overly complex laws and militarized law enforcement.
I don't feel a thing for these thugs, but I am rethinking governments' application of the death penalty.
Agree 100%. I've never been really anti-death penalty but the older I get the more I question the competence of the process that is used.
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