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Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
905 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:41 pm
People like to throw around a lot of bravado and big talk about being pushed to the point politically that they have to take up arms.

I am personally of the opinion that even as a severely divided nation, we are way too comfortable in our American way of life to compromise that by taking up arms against each other.

With that being said, if you disagree with me, give me an example of a crisis you think would be serious enough to trigger wide spread armed conflict between progressive and conservative citizens?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:42 pm to
The confiscation of guns.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8552 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:43 pm to
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The confiscation of guns.


This.

We have the rights to protest(if even by force of numbers) you take away that and it all goes to shite.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:43 pm to
Gun grabbing.

On the other side, ending welfare
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:44 pm to
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give me an example of a crisis you think would be serious enough to trigger wide spread armed conflict between progressive and conservative citizens?


A progressive wins in 2024 and first year in office passes gun confiscation laws, increases taxes only on the top 30% of the country, and criminalizes inflammatory speech on social media as well as "hate speech" protests.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:45 pm to
Gun confiscation would do it for me for sure. I also think that the democrats could keep it going until they have elected enough muslims that they start to push for sharia law and that could also cause a war.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:45 pm to
What's scary is England (among others) already has all of that
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:47 pm to
Ending free speech. It’s happening right now too
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:50 pm to
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What's scary is England (among others) already has all of that


The United States is the most unique country in modern history and one of the most unique countries in the history of earth.

Our constitution and Bill of rights which guarantees us the rights from government persecuting us for speech or religion and the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms, and the rights to assemble, freedom from quartering soldiers, security from search and seizure, etc... Is unbelievable and unprecedented. The founding fathers were not only absolute geniuses when founding this country but also huge innovative risk takers.

And this not being taught in every history and civics class accross this nation is a travesty.

There's a generation of dipshits that don't understand how ground breaking and unique America is. They don't think it's that's great because they have been failed in school.
If they understood how much better we have it than any other people in the history of the world they'd stop trying to fundementally change the system.

People from all over the world literally die trying to get the chance to be poor in America.

Poverty in Africa, Middle East, South America, southeast Asia, etc... Means starving to death after watching your children starve to death after a life full of sickness and disease .

Poverty in America means free Healthcare, free housing, free education, free food, and unlimited opportunity.

The refusal to acknowledge this is sickeing.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16277 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:50 pm to
They are ending free thought right now. Speech is a side effect of thought.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:53 pm to
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And this not being taught in every history and civics class accross this nation is a travesty.
There's a reason for that. And they've been twisting it around and chipping away at it all for a long time - 2nd amendment being an obvious example. It's not that guaranteed

This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:54 pm to
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give me an example of a crisis you think would be serious enough to trigger wide spread armed conflict between progressive and conservative citizens?

Charlottesville, Portland, Baltimore, Ferguson ... given the right powderkeg, enough media encouraged incendiaries, and the right circumstances, and if local law allowed itself to be overwhelmed, a locale could get ugly in a hurry. Now if you're talking state secession, interstate war, etc., no.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Charlottesville, Portland, Baltimore, Ferguson ... given the right powderkeg, enough media encouraged incendiaries, and the right circumstances, and if local law allowed itself to be overwhelmed, a locale could get ugly in a hurry.


I imagine in 2020 or 2024 you may see a large city in utter turmoil and guerilla gang style warfare for weeks or months.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9727 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:02 pm to
I think post birth abortion, aka infanticide become widespread, I think that could trigger a war.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:04 pm to
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progressive wins in 2024 and first year in office passes gun confiscation laws, increases taxes only on the top 30% of the country, and criminalizes inflammatory speech on social media as well as "hate speech" protests.


I don't believe it will work that way.

The Democrats have already decided to take a "death by 1000 cuts" approach when it comes to gun legislation.

As for criminalizing speech, I'm not sure what you mean. A common Republican talking point is the sanctity of private company rights. What is the breaking point between the 1st Amendment and private company rights.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14977 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:05 pm to
An attempt to seize guns seems to be the most common answer and I agree but I think another thing that would do it is if they try to seize private 401k and retirement accounts. Which the left will try to do eventually
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8552 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
They criminalized speech a long time ago.

Just try to criticize them on immagration.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19397 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:08 pm to


This is a long history of the Spanish Civil War. A lot of factors contributed, a number of which we can see in groups like Antifa today.

LINK
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Ending free speech. It’s happening right now too


I’m not on FB or twitter...as far as I can tell my free speech rights seem intact.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35465 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:10 pm to
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I think another thing that would do it is if they try to seize private 401k and retirement accounts. Which the left will try to do eventually
Yep. That would do it for me.
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