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re: City of Houston demands pastors turn over sermons
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:42 pm to BigJim
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:42 pm to BigJim
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This is not a private party; this is the Mayor of Houston.
She's a defendant being sued. She and the city. She's defending herself and the city. Why shouldn't she use every tool available. If this is an infringement on the pastors' rights, then the judge grants the Motion to Quash, then no harm done.
A lot of novices here getting their panties all wet.
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:43 pm to Vegas Bengal
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then no harm done
Lolz
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:44 pm to darkhorse
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There was a law passed in the UK to deal with sport fans. The law was used to arrest a man you stated homosexuality was a sin.
Yeah, what's going on here? And it's really fricking gay to respond to my question by replying to Bigjim.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:45 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Because some "tools" are illegal and unconstitutional
Why shouldn't she use every tool available
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:45 pm to BigJim
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No, just because a tool exists, does NOT mean you have to use it. This is not a private party; this is the Mayor of Houston.
If you don't use all available tools to mount a defense or prosecution, then you are a shitty lawyer.
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bullshite. That will never in a million years happen.
What do you base this on? Costs are minimal in federal court, and Rule 11 is still a powerful tool.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:46 pm to FalseProphet
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If you don't use all available tools to mount a defense or prosecution, then you are a shitty lawyer.
So, all lawyers who aren't shitty legally, are shitty people.
Got it.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:46 pm to BigJim
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So if Bush ordered all the gays into a camp to prevent the spread of AIDS (or some other stupid bullshite
You're equating a subpoena to internment? And you say this?:
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You get that is crazy, right?
quote:The Judge has issued no Order as for as I can see. If you know more, than link please.
And while this is an order of magnitude (or two) less stupid, it is still horrible.
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Until then, it's a BS political attack on political opponents using the legal system (which is bad enough) which is made worse because the targets are churches.
Ah so assuming you're correct, and you haven't been yet, it's ok for the churches to get involved in politics? Because you know, legally, they can't.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:47 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Ah so assuming you're correct, and you haven't been yet, it's ok for the churches to get involved in politics? Because you know, legally, they can't.
All the usual anti religious pantytwisted posters keep trying to link disparate items. Just like the city has attempted. Flail on.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:50 pm to genro
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Because some "tools" are illegal and unconstitutional
If this subpoena is "illegal and unconstitutional" then the Motion to Quash will be granted. This is what we keep telling you guys. You can't seem to get it through your thick skulls.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
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it's ok for the churches to get involved in politics? Because you know, legally, they can't.
Had barry been paying attention during his twenty years in Rev. Wright's church I'm certain he would have advised the good reverend on the laws he was stretching.
Not sure how preaching on sin becomes political in Houston.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:The subpoena itself is a violation of the first amendment. Why are you banking on the first amendment to save it?
If this subpoena is "illegal and unconstitutional" then the Motion to Quash will be granted. This is what we keep telling you guys. You can't seem to get it through your thick skulls.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:52 pm to Vegas Bengal
This is hilarious.
It's. just. a. subpoena.
It's. just. a. subpoena.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:52 pm to the808bass
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Just like the city has attempted.
For the last time, it's up to the judge to make the determination.
Parties in a lawsuit don't decide these issues. The judge does. This isn't hard.
P.S. Why does it seem Missouri posters are running neck and neck with Bama posters for tard award?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:52 pm to cwill
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And it's really fricking gay to respond to my question by replying to Bigjim.
I'm sorry you missed my response to you. Look again.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:53 pm to genro
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The subpoena itself is a violation of the first amendment
I give up.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:53 pm to Vegas Bengal
Probably a good idea.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:54 pm to genro
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The subpoena itself is a violation of the first amendment.
Subpoenas violate the first amendment? I'd love to see the legal support for that. This is great
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:54 pm to Vegas Bengal
The question is why would anyone even think up a subpoena of this nature?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:55 pm to Vegas Bengal
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If this is an infringement on the pastors' rights, then the judge grants the Motion to Quash, then no harm done.
hmmm.. so if a judge decides that slavery is legal, then it makes it ok again?
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This is exactly your line of reasoning. If it's actually a bad thing... the judge will do what's right..
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:55 pm to Vegas Bengal
So if the government subpoenas your personal records as part of a lawsuit to which you are not a party, there's no real issue as long as the judge rules correctly (as determined by something).
Lawyers are sometimes the dumbest damn people in the room.
Lawyers are sometimes the dumbest damn people in the room.
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