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re: CIA Kept Soviet Cancer Research Classified for 64 Years

Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:45 pm to
Almost pointless to argue with them Ed. They just put their fingers in their ears and yell. They’ve already made up their minds without looking at one study
Posted by AlterEd
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:47 pm to
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They’re currently studying it in Florida (the state is) because many ONCOLOGISTS have found them to be helpful in defeating cancer by doing what this cia post says.


Yep. My wife's oncologist didn't know shite about it until I informed him that her recovery from stage 4 uterine cancer coincided with when she began taking fenbendazole tablets. He had no clue.

It's not like these people just know about this shite and choose not to pursue it. They aren't taught this shite. So how would they know? As I said in the OP, people are just now starting to figure this out.

The problem is that our fricking CIA knew about it long ago. Because of course they did.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:49 pm to
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They just put their fingers in their ears and yell. They’ve already made up their minds without looking at one study


They're fricking pathetic. One of these dumb fricks pretends he's a lawyer, for christs sake.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:52 pm to
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I'm not totally sure that I could point to a single positive thing the CIA has done for this country in the last 30 years. I'm guessing there are some, but I don't know of any off the top of my head.

Didn’t you see The Recruit?

“Our failures are known, our successes are not”
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 2:52 pm to
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Yeah, nobody would pay for a cancer cure



It benefits big pharma not to cure people. At least not immediately. It's the perfect grift.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:01 pm to
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My wife's oncologist didn't know shite about it until I informed him that her recovery from stage 4 uterine cancer coincided with when she began taking fenbendazole tablets. He had no clue.


Was she also on chemo?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:01 pm to
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It benefits big pharma not to cure people. At least not immediately. It's the perfect grift.


Fenbebdazole used off label for cancer treatment costs between 300 and 600 dollars per year. Chemotherapy? 10-48,000. Immunotherapy? 100-200,000 per year.

To say fenbendazole is cheaper is putting it mildly. It is downright criminal in many ways what is happening when it comes to treating cancer.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:02 pm to
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Cosmo


We aren't discussing anything else until you address your earlier bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:03 pm to
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We aren't discussing anything else until you address your earlier bullshite.

When did you go to medical school and get your MD?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:04 pm to
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We aren't discussing anything else until you address your earlier bullshite.


Well the article you posted says it doesnt work because they cant achieve high enough concentrations to be therapeutic.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:04 pm to
There’s a weird tension in that theory. When pharma companies actually do find something close to a cure, they market the hell out of it because it becomes a blockbuster overnight. Look at the hepatitis C antivirals. They basically cured the disease and the companies made billions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:05 pm to
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When pharma companies actually do find something close to a cure, they market the hell out of it because it becomes a blockbuster overnight. Look at the hepatitis C antivirals.

Or Ozempic
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:05 pm to
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There’s a weird tension in that theory. When pharma companies actually do find something close to a cure, they market the hell out of it because it becomes a blockbuster overnight. Look at the hepatitis C antivirals. They basically cured the disease and the companies made billions


Yup. HIV is essentially cured as well and those meds are about to be cheap and generic.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11852 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:07 pm to
It's a simple claim. "These drugs don't work against cancer." Which is easily refuted by this here:

quote:

The anti-cancer activity of fenbendazole has been studied across many cell lines, demonstrating anti-tumor effects against multiple cancer types (Table I) (4-7). Additionally, fenbendazole has shown efficacy against 5-FU, paclitaxel, and docetaxel-resistant cancer cells (5, 8, 9). Compared to albendazole, fenbendazole was more effective against 5-FU-resistant colorectal cells, likely due to its intervention in glycolysis (5).


A person does not need a medical degree to see the actual science here directly contradicts the claim.

The Link to the Study Once Again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:07 pm to
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Well the article you posted says it doesnt work because they cant achieve high enough concentrations to be therapeutic.


You have to quote it for him b/c he doesn't understand what the words mean and only got this link from his X feed

quote:

Although fenbendazole exhibits promising anti-cancer effects, experimental studies indicated its poor water solubility has hindered its therapeutic performance. When administered orally, fenbendazole struggles to reach systemic circulation and, subsequently, the therapeutic levels necessary to impact tumors (10-12). Addressing pharmacokinetic limitations is crucial to repurposing fenbendazole for cancer treatment.


quote:

A significant challenge in using fenbendazole is its low water solubility and bioavailability. Improving the water solubility is essential, as it would reduce the amount of drug needed to reach the same therapeutic effect. With this increase in solubility, fenbendazole can also meet the requirements for use as a systemic anticancer drug. Several studies have investigated various vehicles to overcome this low solubility limit (Table III).


quote:

Improving the solubility of fenbendazole is crucial for enhancing its bioavailability and reducing the drug needed to reach therapeutic effects. Future studies could compare these vehicles and test various concentrations to optimize fenbendazole’s solubility and drug release. Additionally, combining fenbendazole with hepatoprotective pharmaceutical, nutraceutical, and glycolysis inhibitors can be a promising approach to improving the drug’s effectiveness while reducing its potential reversible liver toxicity.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:09 pm to
He also wont tell me if his wife was on chemo

My next question will be the name of the oncologist. Ill shoot that baw an epic text and ask him about it
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11852 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:09 pm to
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You have to quote it for him b/c he doesn't understand what the words mean and only got this link from his X feed



Lie. I have administered the frickin drug for cancer myself.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:09 pm to
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the article you posted says it doesnt work because they cant achieve high enough concentrations to be therapeutic.


The archives everywhere are full of compounds that kill cancer cells in vitro, but the trick is doing it without doing excessive damage to you. The research pipeline is actually a funnel. It's wide at the top because killing cells is easy. Killing just your cancer cells is hard, so not much comes out of the narrow end of the funnel. It's not a conspiracy, but of course the internet will make it one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:09 pm to
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It's a simple claim. "These drugs don't work against cancer." Which is easily refuted by this here:


You, nor your wife, have ever taken a drug of the class involved in that study, that cures cancer. Whatever future medication that may be from that class of drug has yet to be invented, and the current options won't work to cure cancer.

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When administered orally, fenbendazole struggles to reach systemic circulation and, subsequently, the therapeutic levels necessary to impact tumors
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131562 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 3:10 pm to
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The anti-cancer activity of fenbendazole has been studied across many cell lines, demonstrating anti-tumor effects against multiple cancer types (


Cell lines IN VITRO

They can get high enough concentrations in vitro
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