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re: CIA Kept Soviet Cancer Research Classified for 64 Years

Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:43 pm to
I’m probably in the minority on this board who actually has had cancer . Pancreatic cancer diagnosed May 29, 2025. I was treated at UAB O’Neal Comprehensive Cancer Center in Birmingham. Six rounds of folfirinox chemo, then Whipple surgery. The last six rounds of chemo were canceled because they weren’t necessary.

I can honestly say the physicians, nurses and all support staff believe 100% in what they are doing. Is there a better protocol, a better “cure”? Are they doing it “for the money?” I don’t know. I only know that I was diagnosed with one of the Top 3 lethal cancers known to mankind and after all that, I was declared cancer-free on January 26, 2026.

I had friends, acquaintances and strangers messaging me to never do chemo, only fenbendazole and ivermectin, along with various other “holistic” remedies such as eating crushed apricot seeds, dandelion root and 5-day fasts. Not against any of those things. But I went with established medical protocols.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 5:46 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:47 pm to
Hey, I'm not saying chemo doesn't work. It certainly does. My dad was recently diagnosed stage 4 lung cancer and he is in full remission now after going the chemo-immuno therapy route. I just wish it worked for everyone that way.

Congratulations, by the way.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:49 pm to
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But I went with established medical protocols.


How did the chemo treat you? I mean, make you feel?
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:56 pm to
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How did the chemo treat you? I mean, make you feel?


It sucked. Nausea, weakness, loss of appetite. I lost 20 pounds in two months. Felt like I was being poisoned (because basically I was). I can only say I saw it as a necessary “evil” to kill the cancer cells.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:03 pm to
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I only know that I was diagnosed with one of the Top 3 lethal cancers known to mankind and after all that, I was declared cancer-free on January 26, 2026.

God bless you, man
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
624 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:06 pm to
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Have any of the approaches in that book actually been tested in larger clinical studies yet?
I highly doubt large clinical studies have been done. Page173 (of the pdf) states the Hierarchy of Evidence is:
quote:

1. Meta analysis of observational and/or RCTs.
2. Prospective RCTs and/or observational studies.
3. Epidemiological data demonstrating that the agent reduces the risk of cancer and/or improves survival in those with cancer.
4. Case series (= 3 cases).
5. Individual case reports (at least 2).
6. In vivo model demonstrating favorable effect on tumor microenvironment.
7. In vivo/in vitro model demonstrating synergistic/additive cancer cell killing in presence of cancer chemotherapeutic agent(s).
8. In vivo model demonstrating killing of tumor cells and/or CSCs.
9. In vitro model (cell culture) demonstrating killing of cancer cells.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:07 pm to
There are a lot of factors in cancer death rates, but if there was anything approaching a cure or very strong treatment the rate wouldn't likely be as it is.

Grok says:

quote:

Russia: Age-standardized cancer mortality rate (all cancers, both sexes) is 110.5 per 100,000 (males: 153.0; females: 84.9). This corresponds to about 311,729 cancer deaths in 2022.


United States: Age-standardized cancer mortality rate (all cancers, both sexes) is 82.3 per 100,000 (males: 93.2; females: 73.6). This corresponds to about 605,761 cancer deaths in 2022.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:11 pm to
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It sucked. Nausea, weakness, loss of appetite.


Did it cause your hair to fall out? I ask because my father also responded really well to chemo, but he didn't lose his hair.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7723 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:17 pm to
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Did it cause your hair to fall out? I ask because my father also responded really well to chemo, but he didn't lose his hair.


It didn’t “fall out” but it got very thin. I could see it in the shower floor. It has come back as thick and full as ever. The texture is different with more body and wave or whatever, lol.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11891 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:19 pm to
Interesting. Same with my dad. His hair thinned but he didn't lose it. Glad to hear it, man.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:26 pm to
That hierarchy is really helpful in this thread because it shows how different kinds of evidence get weighted.

I'll get practical question re: how this plays out with real patients. Suppose someone has colon cancer and their oncologist says “We have a chemo regimen that’s been studied in thousands of patients. Across large studies, about 65% respond and about 30–40% are alive five years later.”

But the patient has also read stories online about ivermectin or fenbendazole where someone says their tumors shrank or disappeared. If you were the patient in that room, you have to decide how much weight to give the large studies involving thousands of patients (top of your evidence hierarchy) versus the case reports and anecdotes about the other drug (bottom).

That’s the dilemma doctors and patients run into all the time (and it seems a bit like what Kingoftheworld's experience may have been like but I'll let him speak for himself).
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 6:30 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11891 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:37 pm to
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But the patient has also read stories online about ivermectin or fenbendazole where someone says their tumors shrank or disappeared. If you were the patient in that room, you have to decide how much weight to give the large studies involving thousands of patients (top of your evidence hierarchy) versus the case reports and anecdotes about the other drug (bottom).



Well, one of those studies I linked to you earlier seemed to indicate that fenbendazole improved the effectiveness of chemo. I would say to such a patient that they could do both if they desired.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:14 pm to
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This book may be a worthwhile read for anyone interested in the topic. Cancer Care: The Role of Repurposed Drugs and Metabolic Interventions in Treating Cancer


I started reading the first PDF and the first table directly states that Ivermectin modulates the Hedgehog signaling pathway, and I don't think there is any evidence at all for this in humans at least. It might be the case that AI hallucinates this, as they do state that these tables were generated by AI. Not a great start for this document though.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 7:16 pm
Posted by KidCreole
Member since Nov 2015
330 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:40 pm to

What OP disclosed is that the Oncologists wer'nt given the opportunity to even see or know about the research. Sad thing is that with Big Pharma controlling Western Medicine, Drugs, Treatments & Medical School Education/Treatment.....most Doctors would not have looked @ the research anyway.

How many Doctors investigated, researched all the data that was widely available on Covid and Covid Vaccines!? How many Pharmacists researched the abundant evidence that Ivermectin was extremely effective against Covid (shut it down instantly for pennies) and refused to fill prescriptions for one of the safest known, miracle drugs ever invented/administered. There were NO outcries from Pharmacists, instead they enforced the all out BAN on Ivermectin.

Doctors, Pharmacists & Teachers......once respected professions......TANKED & Will Never Regain their Status!

They SOLD OUT (us - you - me) and would'nt even LOOK @ the evidence/data which was abundantly available..... while their patients DIED DEAD!
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5424 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:45 pm to
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You think oncologists are letting friends and family members die when there is a cheap cure?


25 years ago, do you think doctors were letting friends and family members die from ulcers when there was a cheap cure, like an antibiotic? They sure as frick were. Because they didn't know - no one had looked before, then empirical evidence came in and they looked and made studies and wrote peer reviewed papers and now, most people don't remember how common it was for a middle aged person to bleed to death from an ulcer.


Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
188 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:33 pm to
Nah she was a good person. But a dumbass for trusting her husband's research over the advice of her Oncologist. It was extremely hard on my wife and her sisters watching their mother die from a treatable cancer with a high survival rate.

Plus at this point I doubt she cares what I think.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2304 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:48 pm to
Chemotherapy doesn’t work that way on numerous cancers, it isn’t a cure all but it works extremely well on fast growing cancers. It’s not a great option for prostate or other slow growing cancers just like radiation is much more effective on cancers that are difficult to remove surgically
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3997 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:48 pm to
I haven’t read this thread

I know our resident “Doctors” made fun of it

The question is did it get SFProed?

I could write the responses for every
poster on this board

It’s become beyond ridiculous
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 9:52 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
43855 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3997 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:54 pm to
Good luck with that shite Scrooster

The medical information warriors will
Take it from here

If they find the name of one doctor that stepped outside of the circle of trust they
will shut this discussion down
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 9:56 pm
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