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re: Chud the Builder case will be a referendum on self defense in America.

Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:02 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:02 am to
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I can’t legally be shot if I go around decking folks?


Probably not. There are differences state to state, but proportionality is pretty universal, for situations just like this.

This was something discussed at length during the Trayvon Martin trial, which is why TM's attack and the violence involved (specifically mounting GZ and slamming his head on the concrete) was such an important variable. It's also why stand your ground didn't even come into play.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20143 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:02 am to
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Anyways, so yes, we do get to riot when court cases go the way we don't want them to go.


The EBT crowd will most certainly riot.

"Mostly peaceful" thingies.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 9:05 am
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4239 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:07 am to
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I can’t legally be shot if I go around decking folks?

I hope you don’t carry, if you have no idea what legally justifies use of lethal force.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20143 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:07 am to
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So the black community hates the white community


They always will.

Is someone arguing this?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:11 am to
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So the black community hates the white community, since we're exactly the same?


There is no white community. There are many white communities, few share similar values. You seem trapped into identity politics.


You are referring to a low-brow subset of white people.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91635 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:12 am to
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I hope you don’t carry, if you have no idea what legally justifies use of lethal force.
I don’t.

Worry about yourself.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:14 am to
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There is no white community. There are many white communities, few share similar values. You seem trapped into identity politics.


You are referring to a low-brow subset of white people.


So the black community hates the white communities, since we're exactly the same?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91635 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:16 am to
Don’t people get convicted of some type of attempted murder for knockout game activities?



Interesting, though. I really did think you could shoot someone who was fighting you when you weren’t in any way contributing to the fight.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:16 am to
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So the black community hates the white communities,[/quote

Some, sure.

You speak in generalities and most dont apply to the real world.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:21 am to
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Some, sure.


The same percentages across the board. We're the same, right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:24 am to
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The same percentages across the board. We're the same, right?


Youre fishing for confirmation of your own biases. Go find a fellow anti black community friend and you'll get that confirmation.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:26 am to
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Youre fishing for confirmation of your own biases


And your beliefs can't hold up to the most basic scrutiny.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20143 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:28 am to
You can. If someone is beating on you, you can shoot if you feel that you may be severely injured or killed.

No, I'm not a lawyer (or claim to be), but I'm related to someone that lived through this exact scenario within a moonbat state (Illinois). Shot an attacker during a fist fight. ...and if he didn't have a gun on him, he would probably have died.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:28 am to
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And your beliefs can't hold up to the most basic scrutiny.


You dont know my beliefs. I'm an individualist, something you lost long ago.

The hive mind is safe, because all your opinions are pre-decided.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:31 am to
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You dont know my beliefs.


You think there is no difference between blacks and whites.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20143 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:31 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:32 am to
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You think there is no difference between blacks and whites.


Youre an incredibly low level thinker if that's your outcome, despite years of me saying otherwise.

The hivemind has destroyed any hint of individuality in you



Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:35 am to
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Youre an incredibly low level thinker if that's your outcome, despite years of me saying otherwise.


So, just so we're clear, you do recognize that there are differences between blacks and whites? And these differences are more than skin deep?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:37 am to
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So, just so we're clear, you do recognize that there are differences between blacks and whites?


Everyone does. What does that have to do with Chud being a retard?

On an individual level, those "differences" dont matter.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28201 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:40 am to
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Everyone does.


No. And now you can't give me shite about generalized statements.

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What does that have to do with Chud being a retard?


I'm just following a side conversation *you* opened up. What do other poster's beliefs have to do with Chud being a retard? You opened this door.

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On an individual level, those "differences" dont matter.


Yes, sure. Not all. That shouldn't need to be said.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 9:42 am
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