re: Chromosome Study: All Men Can Be Traced to One Man

"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study. ??


By assuming a mutation( more like natural evolution,i would think from the environment change) rate anchored to archaeological events (such as the migration of people across the Bering Strait), this makes sense.

A separate study in the same issue of the journal Science found that men shared a common ancestor between 180,000 and 200,000 years ago. lost again

And in a study detailed in March in the American Journal of Human Genetics, Hammer's group showed that several men in Africa have unique, divergent Y chromosomes that trace back to an even more ancient man who lived between 237,000 and 581,000 years ago. ??? more questions


"It's very exciting," Wilson Sayres told LiveScience. "As we get more populations across the world ??? more populations?? they found new people???



To answer to the conflict between spiritual and man

God's Ways vs. Man's Ways (Part 1)

There are several places in scripture where God makes a contrast between His ways and wisdom compared to man's ways and wisdom...

Isaiah 55:8-9
"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

just some thoughts

I was not proving the Bible because it does not need to be proven, it is already and it exists. However, I was just letting you know what the Word says.

I was also picking points in the article which seemed kind of lacking in proving anything.

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I was not proving the Bible because it does not need to be proven, it is already and it exists. However, I was just letting you know what the Word says.

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So does Lord of the Rings

Roger, let's examine something you said at the top of this page. You said (paraphrasing), there may be a God, but our knowledge base is expanding to the point where he will become unnecessary.

Did you really think that through before you typed it? If there is a God, responsible for all of creation, does it really make sense to you that a component of his creation could ultimately render him unnecessary?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Was it this guy?

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Did you really think that through before you typed it? If there is a God, responsible for all of creation, does it really make sense to you that a component of his creation could ultimately render him unnecessary?

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The removal of universal mysteries allows everything to be explained naturally thus removing the need for a God to have done anything. That doesn't prove God doesn't exist, but it does show that he is not REQUIRED for existence. At that point, the onus is on God to reveal himself. If God allows natural processes to explain every aspect of his creation and simultaneously does not provide direct revelation of his existence, what reason does he have to expect us to believe in him? The entire premise is that creation itself reveals a creator, but if we show that creation could have been directed by purely natural processes it no longer reveals anything but the natural order.

Gods have always been used to help explain the unexplainable and people were explaining the mysteries with Gods long before the Judeo-Christian concept of God existed. The Egyptian Gods predate Yahweh by at least 1,500 years.

So, would you say that you're an Agnostic?

okay, thanks

You don't need science to know that.