re: Christmas themed, all ages drag show in TX

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But you probably DO know more about Greek national culture than some yokel who has never lived outside Madison County.

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Yet I'd never present myself as more knowledgeable RE: the Greek scene than an actual Greek person. To their face.

Based on my living there for 5 minutes and googling a couple of studies.

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No, I don't believe a white person who's lived in the ghetto for two years understands the black experience to ANY extent better than a white person who spent their entire life living in River Oaks.

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I respect your opinion, but disagree

When you live beside someone, play with him, eat with him, drink with him, you are going to understand his exprrience better than someone who has never had any exposure at all.

It does not matter whether we are discussing Blacks, gays, the Amish, Germans or a tribe in the Sahel. If you immerse yourself in the culture, you will understand it better than someone who has never done so.

That is my opinion.

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No, I don't believe a white person who's lived in the ghetto for two years understands the black experience to ANY extent better than a white person who spent their entire life living in River Oaks.

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I respect your opinion, but disagree

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HAHAHAHAAA.....LECTURE that Black man about the Black experience.......

HAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHA.......

You REALLY, REALLY don't see how racist you're being, do you?

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I'm honestly surprised at your conclusion,

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Then you haven't been paying attention.

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As an aside, do you ever get tired of being on the same “side“ of an argument as a poster who lies, mis-interprets, misquotes, and otherwise misrepresents his opponent’s arguments to the extent of Ooga?

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What an odd attempt to chastise.

Why would my considered, grounded, and correct statements be affected in ANY way by someone else's actions, whether I agree with them or not? Ooga and I have barely even interacted itt, and it's not as if he (I assume) and I use each other as sounding boards either regularly or intermittently. I couldn't care less about any little slap fight you two might or might not have going on. Makes absolutely no difference to me. My points and arguments have been airtight (and you know it), and haven't been influenced by anyone else's gambits of any sort.

Attempting to castigate my stances because you don't like someone who happens to agree with me is some weak sauce, man. Hell, ooga and I might be on opposite sides of an argument in a different thread, and it won't be any skin off my nose either way.

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As an aside, do you ever get tired of being on the same “side“ of an argument as a poster who lies, mis-interprets, misquotes, and otherwise misrepresents his opponent’s arguments to the extent of Ooga?

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You've gone full on Captain Queeg....

You've been spouting some racist, homophobic bullshite, lecturing Gay people about THEIR world, telling a Black man he's WRONG about what it's like to be black, then you try and blame ME?

You need to log off the Internet and reevaluate your life.

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the black experience

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Who knew there was only one. I am really getting an education here. Is there also a white experience, a straight experience, and a male experience? I mean let's pigeon-hole everyone while we are at it.

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Mere proximity? Of course not.

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Then you misspoke. Because that was what I said.

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active, ongoing interaction and immersion … as compared to someone with no contact whatsoever?

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With a ghetto. With having black friends in a ghetto. This is what we're discussing.

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Yes, absolutely I believe there will be a higher level of understanding.

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Of what?

"The black experience?"

WHAT. IS. THAT?

The ONLY experience with which they might have a greater understanding is...the way of life of people who live in a ghetto. That's literally it. They won't understand "the black experience" (whatever nebulous bs that's supposed to be). You're telling me that because a white person "immerses" themselves (aka has black friends) in a ghetto for two years, they'll understand ME, TbirdSpur2010, to a better extent?

This is precisely how so many white leftists adopt a thought process that results in derision towards any minority who does not stay "on code," in their mind. THEY think they know what a black person is supposed to be like, either based on "immersion" in a type of environment, or some other such circumstance they deem mitigating enough to grant them enlightenment into what the "black experience" supposedly is. And this is important to them because they THEN turn around and attempt to use said circumstances to wield as a cudgel over other white people with whom they disagree and want to be seen as more in tune with black needs (or to upbraid aforementioned blacks not on code).

That's what you've done itt RE: gay people. And now black people.

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I find it difficult to believe that you see the matter otherwise.

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See above, and adjust your worldview. It's leading you astray in some quite unbecoming ways.

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the black experience


Who knew there was only one. I am really getting an education here

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I'm trying to get him to see this shite lol. I mean, my parents (both black) grew up in the ghetto, yet had different experiences (ghetto in Texas vs. ghetto in Michigan). My siblings and I did not grow up in the ghetto, nor are my mixed kids. Does this make my 34 years of experience as a black man less authentic of a "black experience" than that of either or both of my parents? Is a white person who happened to live in or near a ghetto for a couple of years empowered with better understanding of what the "black experience" is in America more than me, or more than a white person from River Oaks, Houston (sidebar, my wife is from Houston, so that part is actually kinda funny to me )?

The whole thing is hilariously terrible framing.