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re: Christian school tells 8 year old girl that she's not feminine enough
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:06 pm to los angeles tiger
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:06 pm to los angeles tiger
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This story was written to make the school look like a bully but they aren't.
Not sure I can agree in this case. The letter sent to grandma and grandpa went way beyond just, "Please have little Sunnie follow the dress code."
If it was all about dress code, then why did they have to include biblical references to sexual identity and the like in their letter?
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:09 pm to alajones
Exactly.
Here's the verses I was speaking of regarding going public. I Corinthians 6:1-8
Here's the verses I was speaking of regarding going public. I Corinthians 6:1-8
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1Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? 2Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 4So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, 6but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers?
7Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be defrauded? 8On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:10 pm to mtntiger
Yeah this school clearly blows and I wouldn't send a pet guinnea pig there. But I'm not sure what it has to do with politics.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:11 pm to mtntiger
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If it was all about dress code, then why did they have to include biblical references to sexual identity and the like in their letter?
Well, considering that I live in California and we now have 8 year old boys who claim they are girls, dressing as girls and using the girls restrooms, I understand why they wrotes such. It's the law to allow "transsexual children" to be who they are.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:11 pm to Toddy
In the school's letter to the parents of this child, they included this bible verse:
What kind of person sends this to an EIGHT YEAR OLD CHILD?
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13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
What kind of person sends this to an EIGHT YEAR OLD CHILD?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:14 pm to Toddy
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bullying
A dress code is "bullying" now? I remember when bullying involved having someone thrown at the brick wall that enclosed the pool area...
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:15 pm to Toddy
WHY IS THIS ON THE POLITICAL-TALK BOARD?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:15 pm to Toddy
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In the school's letter to the parents of this child
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What kind of person sends this to an EIGHT YEAR OLD CHILD?
Obviously not the school.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:18 pm to Toddy
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Christian Right
Person decrying prejudice while using prejudice
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:21 pm to mtntiger
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If it was all about dress code, then why did they have to include biblical references to sexual identity and the like in their letter?
Because the school bases its dress code on the Bible. Unlike most organisations, this one decided to show that the guidelines they created weren't just arbitrary.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:25 pm to Toddy
This is absurd. It's also the policy of this one school, not the Christian right.
I was a total tomboy in elementary school and went to Catholic school my whole life. FWIW, though, I didn't look that much like a boy. If she chooses to go to such a narrow-minded school, she can make an effort to meet their ridiculous standards. And her grandparents aren't doing her any favors letting her keep that hair.
I was a total tomboy in elementary school and went to Catholic school my whole life. FWIW, though, I didn't look that much like a boy. If she chooses to go to such a narrow-minded school, she can make an effort to meet their ridiculous standards. And her grandparents aren't doing her any favors letting her keep that hair.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:28 pm to Toddy
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If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads
I couldn't help but laugh at the thought of the school including that verse in the letter.
That verse has always been used as an excuse to hate on gays.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:35 pm to Toddy
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So it's ok for them to bully an eight year old child because she doesn't look enough like a girl?
No, but it is ok for them to tell her she can't re-enroll because she isn't following SCHOOL GUIDELINES.
I find it humerous you make this over-generalized threads, then only respond to comments that are completely separate from the actual argument.
You are a piece of fricking work.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:36 pm to Toddy
Yeah, these assholes at this one school represent the entire "Christian Right." Just as public schools that expel kids for praying/brandishing a bible represent the entire "secular left." What a simple-minded arse-hat.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:03 pm to TN Bhoy
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Because the school bases its dress code on the Bible. Unlike most organisations, this one decided to show that the guidelines they created weren't just arbitrary.
They don't even require little girls to wear dresses.
Here is the dress code for young girls directly from the school's website:
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Elementary Girls (K-5)
May wear solid navy, khaki/sand, white, brown, gray, or black skirt or jumper or a denim jean skirt that is in good condition (no patches, no “destructed,” bleached out, or extremely faded fabric). Jumpers must be worn over a TCS shirt. These items must come at least to the top of the kneecap (grades 3-5). Skirts must have straight hems—no diagonal or handkerchief hems are permitted.
May wear slacks in khaki/sand/stone, white, brown, navy, gray, or black (no jeans or denim pants). These must be classic, traditional pants (no warm up or sweat pants). Capri’s, gauchos and culottes are not permitted for regular school day dress.
May wear casual shoes—flats, loafers, sandals, conservative boots, tennis shoes in good condition, etc. No athletic-sandals, shower/water sport shoes, slippers, or combat-style boots. Girls may not wear any backless shoes/sandals or shoes with heels over 1 inch.
May not wear make up.
The whole package is just too much for them. She has short hair, wears pants, and likes to play in the mud.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:05 pm to los angeles tiger
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This is a private Christian school and the dress code there is not being followed by her or her guardians dressing her. This is an example of a child telling adults how she is going to dress and the adults blaming it on the school instead of themselves.
They allow little girls to wear pants.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:10 pm to Toddy
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TCS employs a uniform system of dress for grades K - 12. First and foremost, we want to help the students focus their attention on the most important issues before them—their spiritual well being and academic progress. Regulations listed here do not imply that those who disagree with these rules are sinful or wrong. These are institutional standards that TCS authorities believe are necessary to maintain a healthy learning environment as well as a positive Christian testimony. In light of the counter culture represented, tattoos (including temporary ones), and body piercing of any kind (other than ears for girls) are not permitted.
From your own link. This is a stretch even for you.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:59 pm to Toddy
I don't agree with the actions of the school, but this does bring up a deeper question I think needs to be asked. Is the confusion of gender qualities good for the society.
Let me explain further.
I would think the stereotypical boy according to culture would be something like this. Likes to play sports, likes violent things, tough, courageous, not very emotional, etc.
while a stereotypical girl is, emotional in a good way, caring, like movies about romance, likes fashion, usually doesn't play sports, etc.
Is it a problem when we start to see guys doing the things girls usually like to do. Now I'm not talking about one or two things, there are plenty of guys who are plenty masculine but don't play sports, there are plenty of girls who aren't very emotional but are very feminine. What I'm saying is that is there a problem when guys are more feminine than masculine, or girls or more masculine than feminine?
are we seeing a grow in this trend recently?
what are your thoughts?
Let me explain further.
I would think the stereotypical boy according to culture would be something like this. Likes to play sports, likes violent things, tough, courageous, not very emotional, etc.
while a stereotypical girl is, emotional in a good way, caring, like movies about romance, likes fashion, usually doesn't play sports, etc.
Is it a problem when we start to see guys doing the things girls usually like to do. Now I'm not talking about one or two things, there are plenty of guys who are plenty masculine but don't play sports, there are plenty of girls who aren't very emotional but are very feminine. What I'm saying is that is there a problem when guys are more feminine than masculine, or girls or more masculine than feminine?
are we seeing a grow in this trend recently?
what are your thoughts?
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:10 pm to los angeles tiger
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Well, considering that I live in California and we now have 8 year old boys who claim they are girls, dressing as girls and using the girls restrooms, I understand why they wrotes such. It's the law to allow "transsexual children" to be who they are.
I guess this would be relevant at all if this girl's issue was she was transgender....but she wasn't so it's not.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:22 pm to catholictigerfan
Jeez, she's 8. I was an ugly 8 year old tomboy that had a short haircut and could challenge 8 year old boys at most sports. I understand she's out of dress code, but stick to that. Don't talk about how ugly she is and that she looks like she might turn out to be gay.
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