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Posted on 8/30/20 at 9:04 am to ShortyRob
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While I do recognize that this has been the judicial state of affairs for quite some time I do wonder if it has limits. Can the state effectively allow a mob it generally supports 2 attack everybody else that it doesn't? And even if you don't take it that far can the state be held responsible free complete negligence in this area? It would be unreasonable to expect the state 2 be there when an arsonist shows up to burn my home. But is it unreasonable to expect the state do not completely Stand Down while thousands of Vandals attempt to burn hundreds of places?
If the State is not involved than generally they can't be liable for damages. Now when you get into "taking" cases, let's say the government is responsible for the sewer system, something breaks in the sewer lines... your house gets flooded. Well, you might have recourse against the government entity that took on responsibility for the sewer. Now let's just say it rains a lot, your house just gets a ton of water not caused by some development associated with the government... they are not responsible for protecting your property, unless they took on that responsibility.
So, generally the State is not responsible for what a third party does to another third party as far as damages.
Now, that doesn't mean I am completely saying their can't be recourse, but we're probably talking huge corruption type actions that are usually done by the federal government.
Probably what needs to happen is the federal government start charging a particular city officials with corruption is there is targeting of specific groups or selected enforcement. This happens actually somewhat frequently at rural areas... sheriff departments out in the woods. Sometimes the FBI/DOJ will literally wipe out a whole sheriff department for corruption.
I'm not saying a civil action can't be successful, but its pretty unlikely... I think it has to go into a corruption type angle. The State can allow lawlessness to a degree (well until the federal government decides enough is enough) but if there is selected enforcement or other corruption practices... to me that were the problem lies.
Really what we're getting into is corruption, meaning cities are deciding based on political stance who can damage who. The best way to handle this to me... the federal government needs to come in and clean house on a few of these large cities.
Trying to get a government to pay for something they did themselves is tough enough, let alone getting them to pay for what a third party has done.
A house cleaning is probably needed in Portland, Seattle and maybe even DC right now.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 9:10 am
Posted on 8/30/20 at 9:07 am to Strannix
Case will probably be dismissed. Because that city... that state..is too far gone. Political activists at every level.
I hope he wins though. Because everything that happened, happened because of those local politicians.
Because those local politicians supported the message of the invaders and rioters ... they forced their police forces to stand down and basically forfeited the city to violent mobs. The violent mobs made life a living hell for the innocent residents.
I hope he wins though. Because everything that happened, happened because of those local politicians.
Because those local politicians supported the message of the invaders and rioters ... they forced their police forces to stand down and basically forfeited the city to violent mobs. The violent mobs made life a living hell for the innocent residents.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:34 am to Strannix
As usual, the taxpayer will get fked while the people responsible will feel no pain.
Until Patriots start dragging the Burgermeisters from their homes and start hanging them in the Village Square, nothing changes.
Until Patriots start dragging the Burgermeisters from their homes and start hanging them in the Village Square, nothing changes.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:38 am to PhillyTiger90
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Even if he settles for 0.001% he’s still a millionaire
Math is hard. Try again.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:41 am to CAD703X
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hell to the yeah
except the working Washingtonians are the ones to pay for this. Its their tax dollars that are paying for their inept leadership.
THey will leave Washington
They will move to Texas/Arizona
THey will vote for prog/filth AGAIN
THey will cost your tax dollars to pay for stupid shite.
this is a victory in some way, but not the earthshaker you want
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:50 am to oogabooga68
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As usual, the taxpayer will get fked while the people responsible will feel no pain.
too true.
i guess this will boil down to if they can prove that the local governments knew the danger, and purposefully did nothing to stop it.
really should not be too tough of a case to win. good for him. burying a child must be hard enough. but to have it happen through gross negligence due to political priorities....cannot imagine what that feels like.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:19 am to Strannix
To anyone with eyes it’s obvious that state and local officials have abdicated the duties and responsibilities they were sworn to uphold and protect. In my opinion that equates to waiving all rights to immunity because if you willingly choose to chose not to carry out the duties of govt. I don’t believe any official should be able to abdicate their responsibilities and still be entitled to the protections the office provides. Same goes for the govt in general. If the govt is not going to provide for the safety and general welfare of its tax paying citizens then it should not be protected from civil and criminal liabilities as a result of their actions or lack there of.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:29 am to Strannix
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The father of a 19-year-old who was shot in the Seattle Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP), has filed claims in excess of $3 billion against state and local governments, accusing them of allowing a “state of lawlessness,” according to reports.
I'm assuming the city will not fight the lawsuit, just pay the $3 billion and consider it reparations for the family.
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