re: Chinese put tariffs on LNG

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I am dug in on the fact that tariffs are bad

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yet it worked brilliantly with the eu

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They have deep currency reserves and a command economy

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and propped up currency and mongolian immigrant labor. maybe they can keep most of their peoplel in poverty indefinitely over this. maybe they can't.

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yet it worked brilliantly with the eu

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You are really drinking the Kool aid if you think anything significant has happened with the EU

These LNG projects are multi-billion dollar ventures that take years to get financed and built.

None I know of are built without customer contracts in place before construction begins. Kind of like pipelines in America.

Not sure the handful of companies who have means to build LNG would trust China and their Tariff to hold for years into the future.

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The EU disagrees. Give it time, i'm pretty confident they will back down (the chinese).

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Dude, what do you think is going to happen? Even if China removes all tariffs, the central bank will still control the value of the yuan. And they will continue to subsidize the shite out of their industries.

China would have to change so many things to create a more level playing field. Trump's Chinese tariffs have been basically offset by nothing more than a change in currency value.

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Trump's Chinese tariffs have been basically offset by nothing more than a change in currency value.

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There isn't any negative impacts to the Yuan?

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yet it worked brilliantly with the eu

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wait, we have a new trade deal? can I get the deets?

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But it is contradictory to your argument. Your argument is to let countries impose tariffs on US goods at will. How does that bring us closer to legit free trade?

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Not at all. Those countries have no import tariffs. I don't know how the goods they sell are tariffed in other countries. No doubt somebody is tariffing electronics from Singapore. They make my point.

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I don't recall Trump mentioning subsidies, but i see where it comes from. If tariffs are the reason we have to subsidize the farmers, then an elimination of tariffs should equal an elimination of subsidies. But you know the "poor farmers" will fight to keep that gravy train tooth and nail.

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That is exactly what he said and those EU and Canadian tariffs hit primarily agricultural goods. You are correct it would be politically impossible for Trump to end the ag subsidies and thus the tariffs will not come down.

There is a vice premier in China that wants the tariffs to come down. Enforcing intellectual property in a stronger way would benefit China. Both of these things are to our advantage BUT we will not MAKE them do anything nor should we expect whatever they do to be something we can depend on remaining in place.

Given their rising wealth and competition from lower cost countries like Viet Nam I think their willingness to continue unbridled subsidies of their industries will diminish. NONETHELESS we should take advantage of them and buy the stuff they will sell too cheap.

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You’re becoming a one trick pony like Toddy. First it was muh film credits now it’s muh tarrifs.

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I think he has Asperger’s.

He starts 65 different threads per day on the same topic...most of which don’t have 65 different facets worth discussing.

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he will never get it. some of our tariffs MAY stay. he is too obtuse to realize we have had tariffs even if LOWER than others on certain sectors prior to this. some may need to stay and some may go away if others agree to free trade in those specific SECTORS.

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HOLD IT!!

Are Trumpkins moving the bar?? Has the goal changed? Are you saying Trump has started a trade war that will not result in free trade?? What specific sectors are the ones that are important to Trumpkins?? Let me guess--those that get union votes in the upper midwest and PA??

How you coming on that explanation of the impact of trade deficits on the dollar big boy??