re: China cuts retaliatory tariffs on US imports by 50%

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Yes... huge slump in manufacturing. I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of new manufacturing jobs in the last few years are being created just because companies are altruistic, but do not really need the labor.

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The dude literally came at us with the "yeah but everyone else is doing even BETTER" graph.

That's shite right out of the liberal approach when talking about income inequality.

"Well yeah, the poor are doing better...…...but not as fast as the rich are!!!"

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you chose that graph to DEFLECT from the reality that manufacturing employment IS growing for the first time in a very fricking long time.

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that's just objectively false by a wide margin.

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The dude literally came at us with the "yeah but everyone else is doing even BETTER" graph.


That's shite right out of the liberal approach when talking about income inequality.

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Except of course for the fact that I correctly pointed out that real manufacturing output was down for the whole year. That's how we measure slumps both for the economy writ large and for industries. Sorry if y'all don't like it.

And this despite us going out of way to try to protect domestic manufacturing, plus the TCJA.

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The FRED graph disagrees with you

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lol, just lol.

Yes, it's been a really fricking long time since manufacturing employment grew.

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I can read a graph. I do enjoy how cute you think you are by cutting off the graph where you do

At least I'm not that fricking dishonest and pushed my graph back to 1980.

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Are you honest enough to admit that manufacturing employment has been growing for just shy of a decade now?

I'm not playing any games. Although I must admit it's a bit amusing to watch you tie yourself in knots to knee-jerk defend against the mildest criticism of Trump & the trade warriors.

ETA: just wanted to include this quote, for giggles.

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So yeah. Nice try. Manufacturing is growing. Which, we were told couldn't happen. Suck on it.

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I posted the fricking graph. What do you think?

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And you see no inconsistency between your claim that manu employment "is growing for the first time in a very fricking long time", and the fact that the same has grown consistently the entire decade?

Especially considering that this whole sub-discussion came from BayBengal using the 2009-forward window to talk about how we're at a high over that period, yet you unironically accuse me of cherrypicking a window?

Your entire posture in this thread makes little sense at all, except to shout down a Trump critic primarily by directly attacking motives. Careful about doing this as you consistently let wildly bad-faith arguments from your pro-Trump compatriots slide, but instinctively attack motives of bros like 90.

I'll say that I do feel a bit compelled- after your multiple accusations of knowledgeable deceit on my part- to discuss the multiple pieces of evidence firmly supporting the existence of a late-2019 manufacturing slump. Are you down for this?