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re: Chick-fil-a, of all companies, going woke? Hires VP of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:02 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:02 pm to Fun Bunch
They have a business model that makes them so much money. People have stepped up and gone to their restaurants more when the liberals would try to boycott.
Why mess with it. Hopefully they don't spit in the face of the customers that have carried them for a decade when they were faced with boycotts.
Why mess with it. Hopefully they don't spit in the face of the customers that have carried them for a decade when they were faced with boycotts.
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:05 pm to Pettifogger
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unless you're specifically seeking to avoid it
Why would you not be?
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:07 pm to captainFid
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Currently, every liberal [including the perennials here on this board], are playing their old 'hypocrisy' card on the Bud Light subject. This includes 'But conservatives have long stated they disdain for boycotts and love of capitalism
There's a minor difference between a boycott by conservatives and what the left does. The left just blasts in and insists the offending party lose all licensing, fall into irs/doj investigation, etc.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:08 pm to Flats
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Why would you not be?
Because you're aloof and disconnected and you think "pushing back" is unsavory
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:10 pm to Fun Bunch
Only losers get distracted by issues like this. Either eat the chicken or go somewhere else. God I hate getting associated with yall crybabies.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:11 pm to Pettifogger
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Because you're aloof and disconnected and you think "pushing back" is unsavory
So why is it you think there's not a drop-off going from Truett to his family? They clearly don't have the convictions he had.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:35 pm to Flats
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So why is it you think there's not a drop-off going from Truett to his family? They clearly don't have the convictions he had.
Why do I think there is or why do I think there isn't? This is a big topic. CFA, appropriately, suffers from the same condition that most growing, bureaucratic businesses suffer in this regard, with is also dealing with a nice dose of the seeker-sensitive church problem, IMO.
By that, I mean that every big, sophisticated company is being taken over by the woke. They were educated in it, they adopt it as naturally occurring, and it becomes the norm in every organization where these people have influence. And they're the majority of the professional class. They're the overwhelming majority of the talent/HR class, which obviously makes it even harder to avoid.
The "church" problem is also at play, let's use Andy Stanley. I think Andy is a Christian and preaches the gospel. I also think he's well off, popular, beloved and as a result feels some misguided calling to "save Christianity" by making sure it's approachable and not off-putting for outsiders. And with that comes the temptation to avoid controversy/harsh truths, to water things down and make them relatable/palatable, etc. And also to look at the good North Point does and go "hey we don't want to ruin our witness by diving into this politically tinged debate or going too harsh on _______."
I think CFA is similar. CFA does really good work and provides a great product that makes people happy and makes their lives easier. CFA is reliable, it's pleasant, it's typically wholesome (culturally) and it's socially acceptable in a way that no other fast food is. And CFA does a ton for communities, sends lots of kids to college, etc. CFA in many ways lives the Gospel message as well as a large corporation can. And I think the Cathy family feels they're responsible for "safeguarding" that, and with that comes the temptation to not step out too far, or disrupt things too much, etc. After all, we're already by far the most outspokenly Christian big business, right?
Another answer, of course, is money. Having it means you are treated differently by the people who hate the rest of us. It also means you have something to lose, and with the Cathy family, that includes the family legacy. I think there is a risk of getting lulled into playing nice with the culture because it more or less plays nice with you.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:37 pm to Fun Bunch
Smaller portions, slower service, etc has been happening more and more since Cathy died.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:37 pm to Fun Bunch
I'll be honest, even if this is true, I can't participate in this bawcott with y'all.
Nothing will ever separate me and my love of chick fil a nuggets and Polynesian sauce.
Nothing will ever separate me and my love of chick fil a nuggets and Polynesian sauce.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Might as well open on Sundays.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:39 pm to Pettifogger
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CFA, appropriately, suffers from the same condition that most growing, bureaucratic businesses suffer in this regard
But you're depersonalizing it. The family controls CFA. If CFA is sliding towards woke, and this is clearly another move in that direction, then it's a reflection on them.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:44 pm to saint tiger225
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Nothing will ever separate me and my love of chick fil a nuggets and Polynesian sauce.
example #57717771651453738901 of why the right always loses and society always drifts further and further left
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:45 pm to Flats
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But you're depersonalizing it. The family controls CFA. If CFA is sliding towards woke, and this is clearly another move in that direction, then it's a reflection on them.
Well yes and no. The family does control CFA but it's going to grow and become increasingly unwieldy as a result. I'm not saying the buck doesn't stop with them, but the reality is that they're going to grow further and further disconnected from what is happening down the chain.
It's definitely a reflection on leadership, I wouldn't contest that. But it's a much slower burn than most companies and my only point of contention in that regard was that Dan/Andrew weren't woke.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:49 pm to blueboy
In 2019 they stopped their partnership with FCA due to protests from the alphabet armada. In 2020, they changed the traditional tribe names at Camp Winshape. A summer camp founded in 1985 on the campus of Berry College. The kids were in age based tribes honoring Apache, Navaho, Cherokee, Chippewa, and several others. Chic Fil A said “no, no. We are now animals like Wolves, Bears, etc..” Anyone paying attention has seen their turn to political correctness over the last 5 years. Let’s go ahead and get them on the roster to not support. Spread the word.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:52 pm to Fun Bunch
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Chick-fil-A restaurants have long been recognized as a place where people know they will be treated well.
So if I enter wearing a MAGA hat or a bible i'll be treated with respect?
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:53 pm to Pettifogger
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further disconnected from what is happening down the chain.
This is a corporate position. If that's "down the chain" then everything is.
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Dan/Andrew weren't woke.
Time will tell, but it's not looking good right now, recognizing that woke is analog, not digital.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:59 pm to Jack Carter
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So if I enter wearing a MAGA hat or a bible i'll be treated with respect?
Bible studies are held at CFAs throughout the south and likely the country. I have no doubt that plenty of red hats pass through CFAs every day without a cross look or word.
I can't promise you the 17 year old high school kid won't say something to you about the hat. I suspect if he did, the operator of that location would make it right. Will that change 5 or 10 years from now? I don't know.
Both things can be true - that CFA openly supports Christian causes and churches as it always has, and that the organization has put itself on a slippery, albeit slower than most, slope.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:08 pm to Codythetiger
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chicken became smaller
I think they changed the seasonings or cooking process too, because chick fil a was twice as good ten years ago.
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