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re: Chicago Worlds Fair 1893: A 'RESET' narrative created to hide past History & Timeline?

Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:07 am to
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:07 am to
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Why do you believe that humans were any less artistically/mechanically skillful in the past than we are now?



Well for starters they weren't. As we have been taught anyways. There weren't power tools until basically 1900. There weren't big automobiles to move multi-ton stones.

Like how did Mormons cut and move all this granite in the 1850s? And they would have done it when there was less than 10k people living there.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:02 am to
Your post and dot-connecting skills (as well as others) deserve a re-visit and re-consideration.

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One of the most interesting ideas was a series of theories regarding manufactured history adding centuries worth of events that never happened simply by copy/paste-ing the same events over and over again and just changing the names a little bit. The idea was that the reason for the lack of archaeological and written evidence for the Medieval Dark ages is simple: they didn't happen. The distance of time between the Renaissance and the Christianization of Rome was much much much shorter than 1000 years.


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During the 13th through 15th centuries, Europe began founding Universities where classic literary works pilfered from Constantinople and the Holy Land were copied, translated, and studied.

All history of Europe from prior to about 1300 was compiled and recorded by enough people to fit in one medium sized church, and they were nearly all Catholic monks.

There was an opportunity there to create primary source documents to say whatever they wanted.


What we are told is "recorded history" and supposed "Time Lines" are indeed actually pot-holed narratives gored by giant, inexplicable hundreds-of-years gaping holes (or basically eliminated and off-handedly dismissed as, "The Dark Ages" or "Medieval times").

As you also note, it also appears in some cases that the very SAME elements & events -- along with names & places simply got "copy-and-pasted" by the Keepers of the Historical Narrative.

Whatever we *are* given is still accepted THESE Days -- as sloppy, preposterous and nefarious as these explanations are. As you suggest, pre-1300 Crusade timeline and "Medieval" era were a complete mess. (Even in "modern" times and in the USA -- our own timeline AND "history" is shamefully sloppy and lacking -- especially given available documentation and photography that *should* have been far more thorough...BUT ISN'T.)

Conquerors (and "PTB"): Forever "adjusting" and re-calibrating history as need be with false narratives (or simply censoring / whitewashing unflattering true history) in order to explain away the inexplicable, embarrassing, forbidden, or impossible?

Conquerors could also then establish a continuity of "glory" as inner circle administrators and advisors invented flattering "new history" on the fly. (OR hiding and covering up olde technologies and "forbidden knowledge" that may have been pilfered from the Library of Alexandria -- a subject for another time / thread.)

We can assume all Conquerors of all other Lands have relied on their inner-circle of administrators (high priests, monks, scientists, philosophers) to manipulate, re-write, and warp the past and *previous* narrative(s) of People, Places, and Events (And WHY for CENTURIES has the Vatican been so involved in these Olde World / "new" Olde World conquests and telling of "history"?)

LAST NOTE: In "recent" times, we see NO difference in the Agenda of Conquest and manipulation by the Powers-That-Be / Controllers of our own historical narrative and establishment of USA.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:15 am to
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While I am still not convinced of the Mud Flood, I can at least recognize the plausibility of lost history as well as the opportunities that were present to completely re-write everything prior at multiple junctions between 1300 and 1913.


"Mud Flood" theory and evidence (like many other newly considered)
and challenging subjects) is incontrovertible once examined. Proof and examples of a world-wide "Mud-Flood" is all over the place online. (It's even "proven" at some local older towns and cities where it can be observed in older buildings as "basement" windows and window-wells.)

"Mud Flood not even a local phenomena; it's been world-wide. Buildings and infrastructures have either sunk rapidly because of some yet un-established calamity, OR been buried in the same world-wide calamity.

Upthread there's Exhibit "A" posted by zatetic (thank you):



There 30' of foundation that had been buried (for how long? When was IT built?) in this Salt Lake City building.



Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:20 am to
The mud flood thing is interesting. I’ve always wondered how things got so buried by meters upon meters of dirt. Even from just 10-20 thousand years ago. I think a large part of it was with the flood catastrophe that every ancient culture passed down through oral history. There’s evidence everywhere of this event about 12k years ago
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:22 am to
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The Eiffel Tower was once such structure. It was not meant to remain standing.


According to whom?

The Eiffel Tower was certainly designed as a permanent structure; moreover, it was designed an an aesthetic monument but also to harness electricity from the aether. It's original design was also far more complicated and decorative. There are past early photos of parallel structures as well. The Paris Exhibit (and city architecture) was absolutely mind-blowing up till WW1.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:34 am to
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The mud flood thing is interesting. I’ve always wondered how things got so buried by meters upon meters of dirt. Even from just 10-20 thousand years ago. I think a large part of it was with the flood catastrophe that every ancient culture passed down through oral history.


It certainly is fascinating, isn't it? (I'd just begun to research it within the last couple years -- SHOCKED that I was totally ignorant on the subject.)

Yes -- I've been pondering this very thought; exactly how do structures the world-over get buried by 20-40 feet of mud and dirt in the first place?

Some theorize (as you mention) the Great Flood as a 12,000 year old event...(I believe in the Bible text -- that we're looking at maybe 6,000-7,000 years.)

Only a couple possibilities that I can see:

1) COULD it have been it part of the event of the Great Flood of Noah's Ark? (which would have been maybe c.5000 years ago).

Our timeline (and "history") IS completely off. The Controllers / PTB have been lying to us the entire time.

2) The other possibility still involves the Great Flood -- but was a latent "adjustment" of the land as the waters receded back into "The Deep" within the boweles of the earth. THAT would mean pre-Flood building SUNK.

A Third theory -- a flurry of world-wide earthquakes caused re-flooding the land and gurgling of mud to the surface to a disastrous degree.



Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:36 am to
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... the flood catastrophe that every ancient culture passed down through oral history.


And interestingly SOMEHOW, 'The Science' pretty much discounts the notion (AND geological PROOF) of this world-wide account and testimony.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:41 am to
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I think the Smithsonian has a ton of secrets, but I think the Vatican has more. They have been collecting things from all over the earth for a lot longer.


BOOM. Nail-meet-Head.

There is overwhelming proof that the entire reason the Smithsonian even exists is as a repository for "collecting" aka stealing and HIDING relics and evidence of past civilizations. The Vatican has been doing the SAME.

NOTE: The Vatican and Washington DC respectively comprise 2/3 of the World's PTB HQ "City-States". (the third "City-State" is London.)
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:51 am to
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I think it’s entirely possible they existed before a cataclysm 12000 years ago, or they were built shortly after with the survivors. Apparently, the underground structures in Egypt have even more evidence they are far older. Even more impressive.


Hear ya. I also agree that the age and construction of the Great Pyramids existed pre-Flood. (INVOLVED: Creatures and "men of renown" -- "Giants", Nephilim / Fallen Angels. Almost impossible for a vast majority to wrap their head around this stuff.)

Not widely known or shared knowledge:

Turns out huge "Pyramids" are built all over the world -- INCLUDING, the USA.

These impossible structures were NOT built by "thousands of Slaves -- nor was the engineering conjured by simple human "engineers"; OR as a mere "monument. MORE LIES WE'VE BEEN TOLD.

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I hate how the science/archeology fields treat anyone who doesn’t toe the line.

These people who question the narratives are pushed out very aggressively. YouTube has been a great resource to hear these alternate theories by those who were kicked out. There are too many ancient sites that simply don’t add up to the narrative


Exactly. On all counts.

I believe we have a very small window of opportunity in which The PTB (via the internet sources like YouTube) are allow us access for previously hidden / forbidden knowledge and truth.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Here's just a couple examples, one is that there used to be Pyramids just east of St. Louis. Almost all of them were destroyed by the European recolonizers as they moved West. The Native Americans said those pyramids were already there when the Native Americans showed up...

...It seems that there was a relatively recent wipe of humanity. So a lot of information is lost and when some small info does show up it is often discounted. I mean you can look into the book Oera Linda as an example of supposed real history. There is a plague upon us of evil people controlling stuff for whatever reason and they must not like the past very much.


Nice catch: Re:Pyramids east of St Louis (The PTB / Controllers who've written our "history": "Meh...NOT important. Move along -- nothing to see.")

Yup, the Cover-Up -- whether History, Science, past Technology, Archaeology -- all of it. Who WERE our descendants? What did they know? WHY HIDE ALL OR ANY OF IT?

A lot of our past IS being released online recently. (A lot of the final goodbyes were made of all of it as "World Expositions" and "Fairs" from c. 1860 - 1920.)

According to the videos and photos and research -- the last of our glorious Olde World past civilizations and tech was covered up and / or destroyed in the aftermath of wars -- especially during World War I...(then the final nail in the coffin of the Olde World architecture, infrastructure and high tech (!) from antiquities: WW II).

Even in researching my old home town in northern NJ (1900 / 1920 / 1950) big changes were made during wartime; In just the span of 30 years between 1920-1950:

Olde glorious building were destroyed; electric Frisco-style street trams eliminated; electric street lighting torn down; canals filled in and diverted; ponds drained; cobblestone streets paved.

Posted by 610man
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:11 pm to
Great thread, those with information and time to add to it, please continue to do so. As I get older, I am now of the belief that very little we have been taught, and continue to be told is true. Question everything!
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:14 pm to
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There weren't power tools until basically 1900. There weren't big automobiles to move multi-ton stones.

Like how did Mormons cut and move all this granite in the 1850s? And they would have done it when there was less than 10k people living there.




Valid questions. Makes ZERO sense.

The Mormon Temple is mind blowing -- yet who considers the location for the time AND architectural / engineering feat?? (Unless...IT WAS ALREADY THERE.)

Still no logical explanations or reasons of these impossible structure being built considering the sheer size and lack of machinery & tech (we are told) to move such stones. And then there are the engineering feats -- similar, whether there in Salt Lake City or across America.






Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Question Everything!



Many of us are now at this point; NOTHING we have been told, taught, indoctrinated by can be trusted at face value.

I hear ya -- this is subject matter and info we-the-curious have gone an entire lifetime NOT knowing about or having any inkling.




(street and previous "city" is the foundation for the current city -- this is in Newark, NJ)




YOU or anyone can see this same Mud Flooded building "adjustments" in your home town / city; The first floors become "basements" and street levels far above the original main floor of buildings.



(Of ALL places -- this Olde world building in Melbourne, Australia -- BURIED: first floor and perhaps a second story?)



Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:33 pm to
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That's the Museum of Science and Industry. I've been there a number of times as a little kid.


Awesome, eh?

Ever think twice about its history and the grounds as part of the 1893 Chicago World's Fair? Still live in the area? If so...have you explored any of the former grounds?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:40 pm to
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The Mormon Temple is mind blowing -- yet who considers the location for the time AND architectural / engineering feat?? (Unless...IT WAS ALREADY THERE.)

Still no logical explanations or reasons of these impossible structure being built considering the sheer size and lack of machinery & tech (we are told) to move such stones. And then there are the engineering feats -- similar, whether there in Salt Lake City or across America.


You're out of your mind.

A picture of it being built has already been posted. And it took them 40 years.

Far from impossible.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:46 pm to
Re: Star Forts

A trip.

Again, "Star Forts" are another example of a revised historical narrative that lies and instead calls ALL Star Forts "military fortresses".

Even Ellis Island is a "re-purposed" Star Fort.



Ellis Island base (remnants of two points to the "Star")

Star Forts are said to be past Energy Centers that draw power from the waters (somehow).

There are said to be past built Star Forts found in over 37 countries — America, South Africa, Japan, and Germany, to mention just a few.

The World's many Star Forts: Military Fortresses OR Ancient Power Stations





Posted by markinkaty
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:50 pm to
Some fellow from Pittsburgh. It was at least 15 years ago when I read it. Also recommend Isaac's Storm by same author . Great detail about 1900 Galveston hurricane.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:16 pm to
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A picture of it being built has already been posted. And it took them 40 years.

Far from impossible.


Impossible by today's standard of technology, design, and know-how.

Even IF it IS "possible" and we are to believe the "construction" photos, wouldn't they have needed all kinds of unrevealed, secret technology to pull it off? (that's long gone.) The builders -- as in Chicago -- are always way short of explaining the details and techniques.

So yeah. And I've seen all the scaffolding and foggy /smoggy washed-out photos that show it's "construction". AND the supposed stone quarrying. (so HUGE STONE BOULDERS were moved from its quarries HOW again? How found them? How did they cut them so perfectly that we can't duplicate the technique in 2021? Who or what "carried" tons of stone AND lifted them? donkey or slaves?) How were tons of stone lugged over 200' up the towers? And how did electrician wire it as "electric" lighting was still as it supposed infancy)? Who designed such buildings in 1876?

If THIS is being built in 1876 (and built easily like a kit) then the architectural know how AND technology would have to be MUCH OLDER than 1876 (but how much older??)

Here is an actual photo of the "construction" and perfectly CUT blocks of stone and crane work (yo do NOT get to see the "cranes"...nor by WHAT technology are the stones cut)??



Tiny population, in the middle of No-Where -- but they have enough craftsmen and labor to not only build a "church," but they need a massive 225' high towering Gothic structure?? (253,015 sq ft)

And in olde days Utah, they also built THIS Greco-Roman "Post Office":







There are far more questions than answers created regarding the Salt Lake Temple as well as other impossibly built Gothic / Greco-Roman structures in America.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:19 pm to
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Great detail about 1901 Galveston hurricane.


Olde World Galveston -- Great (short) video

Amazing video:

(Just lower the volume)

Check out the thread comments; fascinating.

Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:22 pm to
Regarding the Salt Lake City POST OFFICE:

Note the lower windows and raised street BACK THEN.



THAT is an example of a "Mud Flood" building from the Olde World.
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