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re: Checks and Balances Don't Matter Anymore

Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

No one cares about what Obama did. We are talking about Trumps actions and their legality.


Get the frick out of here.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:06 pm to
Need to be brought back to what they were meant for.
The problem is that we are playing politics in every branch, and taking positions just to spite one another, dems and repubs that is.
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This one of many reasons we need term limits.
Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14671 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Very scared actually. You should be too. A president that doesn't respect the rule of law is a coup away from a dictator.



And I thought people were nuts talking about Obama instituting martial law. Good Lord people. Use combat breathing if you need to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32993 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:06 pm to
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We all should be.
We were the past 8 years. Maybe we've grow accustomed to it.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:08 pm to
Serious: I'm under the impression the judges ruling is only for their jurisdiction (ie NYC)

Please correct if wrong
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26099 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:08 pm to
It is a nationwide stay, but no ruling on the merits has been entered at this time.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42629 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:09 pm to
'Elections have consequences.'

Has to be the stupidest thing ever to come out of a President's mouth. Congrats on giving every political opponent until the end of time a reason to ignore your ideas and opinions when they are in power.

But Trump is the one with an ego problem, right?

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32993 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:09 pm to
The hypocrisy in this thread by the left is astounding.

8 years of Obama shitting on the checks and balances, and all they said was, "elections have consequences".

But now, "It's an outrage!"
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28168 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:11 pm to
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No one cares about what Obama did. We are talking about Trumps actions and their legality.



It is Trump's responsibility to undo Little Barry's eight year assault on this country. Further, the radical NY judge exceeded her authority to an absurd degree. She can't strip away the President's legal and historical role in overseeing immigration. But I take it you have no problem with her decision?
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
5534 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:11 pm to
To use and analogy....

Courts are undermining POSTUS duly defined Constitutional Authority to protect the people of the United States from enemies foreign and domestic. It would be the same as the courts saying you can fight a war but you cant use bombs....
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:12 pm to
Do war powers have any standing here?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:12 pm to
How is anyone legislating from the bench
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26333 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

No one cares about what Obama did. We are talking about Trumps actions and their legality.


Everyone cares. His misuse of EO opened the door to others.

Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
15086 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:15 pm to
Define 'You guys', because I don't support Obama.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35788 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:15 pm to
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ETA: For all of you jumping at me saying I didn't mind this when Obama was in office, just know: I've never liked Obama. I did not vote for Obama. I do not defend Obama. I'm not trying to talk about Obama. Just because someone denounces your Emperor, doesn't mean they support the opposition.


quote:

This is how it starts.


ok
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
15086 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:15 pm to
EOs have been misused long before Obama. I wish people would make an educated argument instead of just blaming Obama. Such an easy thing to do and it adds nothing to the conversation.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:16 pm to
8 years of liberals pushing far-left social issues have given Republicans the Oval Office, Senate, House, and Supreme Court...

i wouldn't expect much balance for at least a couple of years..
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26099 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:16 pm to
Where were you when the US Government was slaughtering citizens (many times by mistake) in its worldwide drone war? That's more dangerous than anything Trump has proposed thus far.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88126 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
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EOs have been misused long before Obama. I wish people would make an educated argument instead of just blaming Obama. Such an easy thing to do and it adds nothing to the conversation.


You're arguing with children
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:22 pm to
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the courts say

Has the United States Supreme Court, the judicial check on the Executive Branch, ruled on the issue yet?
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