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re: Charlie Kirk assassinated in Utah

Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:10 am to
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:10 am to
One anonymous friend from what year of high school and how many years ago was that? How good of a friend was the person who said this?

People's politics can change over the years, you know. And especially so with younger folk. For all I know he could have gone left .... but I'm thinking based on the information I'm getting (from a wide variety of sources, right left & in-between) it's more likely he went the other way (farther right) The Fuentes/Groyper crowd had no love for Charlie Kirk - and they do promote the idea of "leaderless resistance" (as does Antifa, btw) It just seems to fit better that he likely bought into the Groyper ideology ... along with the messaging on the shell casing and some photos that have been released. (particularly the one of him crouching in a track suit ala Pepe the Frog)

But I'm a retired LEO. I follow the evidence and don't jump to conclusions.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:13 am to
I have no need to get paid for anything .I'm a 65 yo quite comfortably retired LEO. But as such ... I have a tendency to always try to follow the evidence and avoid jumping to conclusions.
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:15 am to
Not my job to educate you. We're just having a discussion about a crime here.

Google "nick feuntes" "leaderless resistance"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:16 am to
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Google "nick feuntes" "leaderless resistance"


Youre flinging shite as furiously as you can.

Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:16 am to
Nobody has said he is a leftist ... (excepting a report from one anonymous "friend" who says they knew him back in high school. How many years ago was that?
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:17 am to
Well, seems your mind is made up about the whole thing.

Mine is not. I'm not discounting the "Groyper" theory. There is credible evidence for it. That evidence is not conclusive yet though, so we shall see.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:20 am to
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Nobody has said he is a leftist




Go find someone to tie your shoes for you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:20 am to
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Nobody has said he is a leftist




Go find someone to tie your shoes for you
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:20 am to
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Well, seems your mind is made up about the whole thing.


You’re not fooling anyone, dickcheese.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:21 am to
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Mine is not. I'm not discounting the "Groyper" theory


Of coure, youre sympathetic to the shooter and embarrassed he might be one of you.
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:23 am to
I'm not sympathetic to any murderer. How is it you think discussing what his motivations may have been make me sympathetic to him or his crime?

"One of you"? You mean this f'd up kid was like me? You mean he is a father, a husband of 33 years, a veteran, and a retired Special Agent for HSI? How would this guy possibly be one of mine (other than having a certain level of firearms proficiency, it seems, of course)
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157675 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:26 am to
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How many years ago was that?


Keep that in mind when you see the Pepe the frog Halloween picture, proggie.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:26 am to
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a husband of 33 years


Who’s the lucky fella?
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:27 am to
I don't follow. So are you saying he is a former Groyper ... and is now a pro-trans leftist?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:28 am to
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How is it you think discussing what his motivations may have been


We know what his motivations were.

You do too, you are just are terrified to say it.
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:41 am to
Well, if you must know here name was Cindy and she passed away of pancreatic cancer a few years back. She was a wonderful wife and mother and I miss her tremendously.

But I know you're just trying to get my goat by attempting juvenile personal attacks. Presumably because you have nothing of substance to offer to the conversation. And from what I know of Charlie Kirk, which is a little bit, and I did before this shooting .. he didn't engage in personal attacks and wouldn't condone you doing it either.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 11:45 am
Posted by RamblingMan
East TN & Pensacola FL
Member since Feb 2022
50 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:43 am to
What were his motivations, do you think?

And why do you discount the Groyper theory. It's pretty well known Kirk was as hated by that crowd as he was by the trans crowd.
Posted by OhioTiger
Ohio
Member since Oct 2005
724 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:46 am to
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I have no need to get paid for anything .I'm a 65 yo quite comfortably retired LEO. But as such ... I have a tendency to always try to follow the evidence and avoid jumping to conclusions.

If you truly think this guy was on the right, then you’ve lost your mind. The evidence is clear as day that this dude was a radicalized leftist. There’s really no debate about it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:47 am to
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What were his motivations, do you think?


I suspected from the start he was a tranny activist and/or antifa and every bit of evidence/information seems to back this up.

You need to realize that the far left cannot tolerate diverse ideas.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Canada
Member since Dec 2024
4980 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 12:00 pm to
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What were his motivations, do you think?


If I had to venture a guess, he was afraid of the global takeover from the Jewish space lasers and he had to set his sites on a high profile person like Mr. Kirk to show the operator of the Lasers that he was terrified and had to fight back
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