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re: Central Incorporation vs. St George (EBR)
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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our constitution allows citizens in unincorporated areas a way to incorporate
Oh, I think you misunderstood. I said there’s no legal basis for the notion that you have to incorporate in order to form an ISD. the desegregation court order was lifted.
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:51 am to BeepNode
“No legal basis”, yet SWB and others in the legislature used that as a fig leaf to kill an ISD because no previous one had been approved without a city to go with it.
Dumbfrick mayor helped create this situation and she is going out of her way to be scorched earth about it.
Dumbfrick mayor helped create this situation and she is going out of her way to be scorched earth about it.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:52 am to teke184
Let’s go St. George.
I love to see progs melt.
Anyone selling team st George shirts and koozies yet?
I love to see progs melt.
Anyone selling team st George shirts and koozies yet?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:54 am to BlackAdam
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What's good for St. George might be good for St. George, but what is bad for Baton Rouge is bad for the entire metro region.
St. George is East Baton Rouge's only hope. It's the best chance that the City of Baton Rouge has to be able to offer businesses a nearby solution to the disaster that is public education in Baton Rouge.
If St. George happens and is able to create a quality school district, I'm 100% sure the parish and the City of Baton Rouge will benefit.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:58 am to moneyg
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St. George is East Baton Rouge's only hope. It's the best chance that the City of Baton Rouge has to be able to offer businesses a nearby solution to the disaster that is public education in Baton Rouge.
I don't see how anyone can argue that the status quo is working well.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:59 am to moneyg
The current trajectory of the city of BR is that those with means stay and use private schools while those without either stay in failing schools or move to outlying areas and have to commute. That promotes blight as the middle class exits and heavily taxes the infrastructure as people migrate to and from outlying areas along Airline, 10, 12, etc.
Fixing EBR through St George would actually solve a LOT of issues for BR because it would lessen infrastructure issues during rush hour and it would also promote people actually going into BR for events because they aren’t having to drive back to BFE every night.
But because it means some immediate pain to BR because they can’t simply exploit an unincorporated area anymore, they are going out of their way to frick the whole Capitol area.
Fixing EBR through St George would actually solve a LOT of issues for BR because it would lessen infrastructure issues during rush hour and it would also promote people actually going into BR for events because they aren’t having to drive back to BFE every night.
But because it means some immediate pain to BR because they can’t simply exploit an unincorporated area anymore, they are going out of their way to frick the whole Capitol area.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:03 pm to BeepNode
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Oh, I think you misunderstood. I said there’s no legal basis for the notion that you have to incorporate in order to form an ISD.
BR basically made it one when they told the StG people that if they wanted their own school district then they would need to first incorporate into a town. They just didn't think the StG people would actually pull it off.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:06 pm to Bard
Law of Unintended Consequences at work.
They thought they were just saving EBRPSB from losing a ton of money. Now the city of BR is going to lose control of a ton of money and have to find a way to balance their budget without all that sweet general fund money.
They thought they were just saving EBRPSB from losing a ton of money. Now the city of BR is going to lose control of a ton of money and have to find a way to balance their budget without all that sweet general fund money.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:23 pm to BeepNode
Throughout the constant back and forth about the City of BTR not receiving service from the Sheriff, and BTR subsidizing the EBRSO to patrol SG, one very large factor has been left out. The EBRSO also runs the parish prison. From which part of the parish are most arrests made? That's right, the fine city of BTR. Add that into the mix, and BTR is getting more of it's share of service from the EBRSO.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:28 pm to tommy2tone1999
I bet we could define things to the ZIP code and tell you exactly what areas are contributing prisoners.
My guess is 70801, 70802, 70805, and 70807.
My guess is 70801, 70802, 70805, and 70807.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:31 pm to fallguy_1978
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I don't see how anyone can argue that the status quo is working well.
In this thread, you have a Central resident concerned that HER taxes are going to go up because of whatever subsidization is happening by St. George. Her arguments are humorously flawed, and she knows it. Because if you press her hard enough she falls back to the "It might be good for St. George, but..." argument.
Everyone knows. But, the opposition has just decided that they would rather sell their soul and prevent the short term pain even though it guarantees their ultimate demise.
Props to you for being able to discern what is right vs. what benefits you.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:31 pm to BeepNode
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Sandy Springs spends $23.8m on their police dept.
You do realize that Sandy Springs has more than three times the population and a much larger business district than St George, right?
Sandy Springs Skyline:
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:36 pm to moneyg
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Everyone knows. But, the opposition has just decided that they would rather sell their soul and prevent the short term pain even though it guarantees their ultimate demise.
Props to you for being able to discern what is right vs. what benefits you.
St George will probably be a negative for me considering that I live right on the border but inside of the BR city limits. I will still vote for it when the time comes because I think it will help keep more people in the parish.
I'm from Central and don't understand how someone that lives there would be opposed to allowing another area to do the exact same thing they did about 15 years ago.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:59 pm to fallguy_1978
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St George will probably be a negative for me considering that I live right of the border but inside on the BR city limits.
Have faith. There will come a day when both you and ME Cormier will live in SG. De-anexation from BTR, then annexation into SG
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:02 pm to tommy2tone1999
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The EBRSO also runs the parish prison. From which part of the parish are most arrests made? That's right, the fine city of BTR. Add that into the mix, and BTR is getting more of it's share of service from the EBRSO.
Legit point. I can’t argue with that.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:08 pm to TommyStGeorge
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You do realize that Sandy Springs has more than three times the population
It does not. St. George is roughly 20% smaller in population which is why I took 20% off their budget. St. George is spread out over a larger area which makes logistics a little harder. I don’t know how much Sandy Springs contributes to their sheriffs dept or how much of a presence they have. The large corporate presence could matter a lot or a little depending on how often they hire city police for security since it would be pass-through that artificially inflates their budget.
The devils in the details.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:22 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Have faith. There will come a day when both you and ME Cormier will live in SG. De-anexation from BTR, then annexation into SG
Our HOA president has suggested that we wait and see and will vote on it at a later date. M.E. would certainly be triggered
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:31 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Have faith. There will come a day when both you and ME Cormier will live in SG. De-anexation from BTR, then annexation into SG
This is very true.
If you truly are on the border, this could be an easy fix.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:34 pm to moneyg
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This is very true.
If you truly are on the border, this could be an easy fix.
We live in Woodland Ridge which is contiguous with the St George border. The little neighborhood Millbrook, which is at the end of my street, is in St George.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:38 pm to fallguy_1978
Yeah, we’ve heard rumblings of Woodland Ridge potentially de-annexing from BR and joining StG.
Not sure how much of that was just rumbling at the potential tears by ME if she ends up in St George.
Not sure how much of that was just rumbling at the potential tears by ME if she ends up in St George.
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