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re: Central Incorporation vs. St George (EBR)
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:38 am to beerJeep
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:38 am to beerJeep
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But, they don’t need one because, surprise surprise! St George isn’t a crime ridden shite hole
Agreed...and they wish to incorporate to keep it that way. In reality, that's the real reason. I also agree with that.
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 5:54 am to The People
Central was contested.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:08 am to BeepNode
St George doesn’t need added protection. It’s basically 4 million coming back to the newly incorporated city that was being used in another area of the parish. St George doesn’t need more police protection, it’s doing fine.
The funny part once again about all of this is that the mayor said that St George would not be able to sustain itself yet is fighting tooth and nail to keep it from happening because the city of Baton Rouge is the one losing money because it’s been abusing the tax dollars of those formerly unincorporated areas.
I find it hilarious that people can’t see this and just throw out racism. Typical crutch for a dumb person.
The funny part once again about all of this is that the mayor said that St George would not be able to sustain itself yet is fighting tooth and nail to keep it from happening because the city of Baton Rouge is the one losing money because it’s been abusing the tax dollars of those formerly unincorporated areas.
I find it hilarious that people can’t see this and just throw out racism. Typical crutch for a dumb person.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:08 am to udtiger
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St. George is already paying for EBRSO for police protection on top of what it is paying for BRPD.
Baton Rouge is paying for both, as well. They are not going to let you stop paying for their BRPD unless they can get out of paying for your EBRSO protection.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 7:12 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:10 am to BeepNode
No shite, it covers all those areas and St George will continue to pay for EBRSO. Nothing changes unless down the road there is a local PD created.
St George pays for BRPD and gets nothing back. How would you feel if you paid for St George PD and getting nothing back? It makes no sense.
St George pays for BRPD and gets nothing back. How would you feel if you paid for St George PD and getting nothing back? It makes no sense.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 7:11 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:16 am to MrJimBeam
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St George pays for BRPD and gets nothing back. How would you feel if you paid for St George PD and getting nothing back? It makes no sense.
I repeat. BR subsidizes the costs of the EBRSO patrols in SG. Get ready to have that contested if you contest subsidizing the BRPD. Taxes in BR, Central and SG are about to go up.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:17 am to BeepNode
BR pays for and gets both EBRSO patrols and BRPD patrols. SG pays for and gets EBRSO patrols. SG pays for but does not get BRPD patrols.
your point is invalid.
your point is invalid.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:19 am to BeepNode
We can use our 4 million we get back to cover any change. Taxes will go up regardless, have you seen who our governor is?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:27 am to BeepNode
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You are sky screaming about a $15m imbalance which is less than 2% of the EBR budget
It takes a pretty impressive mix of arrogance and ignorance to suggest the imbalance isn't a big deal given that City leaders have gone all in on stopping this due to the imbalance.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:51 am to The People
Meth?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:08 am to BeepNode
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Taxes in BR, Central and SG are about to go up.
Some facts about Central.
Created in 2005, estimated pop. 28,800 (roughly 33% of SG0.
City revenues approx. 8.30 Million
City Expenditures approx. 6.77 Million
They run a surplus.
They have a surplus fund of over 21 million dollars as they have run a substantial surplus each and every year.
They do have a police department. They budgeted over 600 K a year for that.
They haven't had a tax increase in 13 years, and with such a large surplus each year, why do you think they are going to have one now?
And now tell me the facts about SG. Why will they have to raise city taxes once they incorporate?
Give me the facts not some Cormier BS.
As for BR taxes going up, you might be correct.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:10 am to tharre4
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BR pays for and gets both EBRSO patrols
This isn’t true, to my knowledge. I’ve never seen them patrolling or working cases in the BR city limits other than mall of La.
Here’s what’s going to happen.
SG will stop subsidizing BRPD and they would be justified in doing so.
It’ll take a few years, but BR will stop subsidizing EBRSO police protection in central and SG, and they will be justified in doing so.
I don’t know what the dollar amounts will be because I don’t know what percentage of EBRSO’s budget is spent on regular police protection and what’s spent on parish-wide functions like jails, constables, etc.
Either way, both Central and SG are going to have to provide their own police protection.
For SG that will cost around $22.75 (1/4th what BRPD costs) so they’ll have to find $18.75m more. That works out to around $865 per family of 4, a year but they can fix it by adding 3/4th of a cent to sales taxes.
BR will also raise taxes, possibly more so than anyone. They will try to make up for some of it by clawing back at EBRSO.
I have no idea what the true cost of police protection in Central is. It’s not populous or dangerous but it’s a lot of ground to cover.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:17 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:16 am to BeepNode
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For SG that will cost around $22.75 (1/4th what BRPD costs) so they’ll have to find $18.75m more. That works out to around $865 per family of 4, a year but they can fix it by adding 3/4th of a cent to sales taxes
You just like to make things up?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:26 am to The People
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Why wasn’t Central’s incorporation and exit from the EBR’s school system as contested?
Mary Olive Pierson was on the radio a few weeks ago after the election. She basically said that the attorney challenging the Central incorporation botched it, implying that if she had been handling it then it would not have been approved.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:27 am to doubleb
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You just like to make things up?
Do you have a non-made up number? The EBRSO is doing a great job in SG, but their budget is a bit opaque. Even though SG is a much safer area, 1/4th BRPDs budget seems reasonable, if not generous, for these reasons:
1. SG is over 1/3rd the population of BR.
2. SGPD will have about 75% as much land to cover as the BRPD.
3. Surely, SG would pay higher starting salaries than the BRPD? EBRSO does.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:30 am to BeepNode
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Citizens in BR pay dedicated taxes to fund the BRPD so you could say the same thing about that arrangement.
but citizens of SG are also paying for the BRPD, correct?
what services does the BRPD provide SG?
BR City Court?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:31 am to BeepNode
Mrs. Cormier, lying does not help bolster your non existent case.
EBRSO serves as the parish prison. EBRSO provides SWAT services to the Parish. EBRSO facilitates parsih property tax collection. EBRSO patrols the BR city and the rest of the parish.
EBRSO website
SG, by law, would have to provide a "police force" that only is required to have a police chief.
EBRSO serves as the parish prison. EBRSO provides SWAT services to the Parish. EBRSO facilitates parsih property tax collection. EBRSO patrols the BR city and the rest of the parish.
EBRSO website
SG, by law, would have to provide a "police force" that only is required to have a police chief.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:33 am to BeepNode
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I’ve never seen them patrolling or working cases in the BR city limits other than mall of La.
So I don't have to pay the ticket that the EBRPSO gave me within the city limits of Baton Rouge?
Good to know.
Thanks.
JRB
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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ut citizens of SG are also paying for the BRPD, correct?
what services does the BRPD provide SG?
BR City Court?
SG doesn’t get BRPD or BRFD services except in emergencies when it’s all hands on deck.
BR City Court is city only.
The entire parish is served by the sheriff, EMS, MARC, Library board, BREC, and sewer dept.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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but citizens of SG are also paying for the BRPD, correct? what services does the BRPD provide SG? BR City Court?
Clearly, there’s a failure, mentally, to separate police protection from all the other services that EBRSO provides. It’s naive to believe BR will let it go. They will demand that police protection in SG and Central not come out of general funds to the EBRSO.
We will just have to bookmark and bump the thread down the road when it unfolds.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:46 am
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