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Census hypothetical: What if (D)’s were to add gun-related Q’s?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:56 pm
Such as:
“Do you own any firearms?”
“How many firearms do you own?”
“Do you store all of your firearms in your home?”
Etc, etc.
Go.
“Do you own any firearms?”
“How many firearms do you own?”
“Do you store all of your firearms in your home?”
Etc, etc.
Go.
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:59 pm to thetigerman
Unconstitutional. Falls outside the scope of the census.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:03 pm to thetigerman
WTF is this idiot talking about.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:05 pm to thetigerman
quote:I don't see any justification to include this in a population census. Frankly, I think race and ethnicity is a questionable, albeit useful, inclusion to the census. But any inclusion that is unnecessary AND could reasonably decrease response rates should not be include since accurate estimates of the population is the essential goal.
Census hypothetical: What if (D)’s were to add gun-related Q’s?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:06 pm to buckeye_vol
They already do at the doctors office.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:08 pm to thetigerman
I don't understand why asking whether you're a citizen or not would impact response rates. Even if there is some ulterior motive, the argument against it is asinine.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:09 pm to xrockfordf150x
quote:But unlike the census, one is required to answer a physicians questionnaire, nor are the required to even go to that physician. Besides, I highly doubt any significant number of physicians ask anything about guns, UNLESS they are doing it for something like assessing suicidal risk.
They already do at the doctors office.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:10 pm to xrockfordf150x
quote:
They already do at the doctors office.
No they don't...
Unless you are there for psychiatric reasons, questions regarding firearms are completely out of the ordinary. Doctors don't waste their time asking about stuff that is irrelevant besides shooting the shite type questions.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:15 pm to slackster
quote:There are a lot of people that refuse to do a number of mundane things because they're afraid the government is tracking them, despite not doing anything worthy of tracking in the first place.
I don't understand why asking whether you're a citizen or not would impact response rates. Even if there is some ulterior motive, the argument against it is asinine.
So I could see how people could either not know, or not believe, that confidential information would be kept confidential. Or even then, I could see how they would be afraid that they would target areas that had a high number of non-citizens, even without any identifying information.
I think the citizen question could be useful, but at the same time, a more comprehensive and accurate census would be even more useful for that since we can pretty reliably determine how many citizens there are.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:20 pm to thetigerman
A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:24 pm to thetigerman
quote:
Such as: “Do you own any tampons?”
“How many tampons do you own?”
“Do you store all of your tampons in your home?”
Etc, etc.
Go.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:46 pm to AMS
quote:yes they do, I've seen it in forms at my frigging dentist
No they don't...
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:48 pm to narddogg81
quote:
yes they do, I've seen it in forms at my frigging dentist
I’d find a new dentist.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:49 pm to thetigerman
I only answer questions reasonably calculated to answer the mandate of the census - i.e. count the population for apportionment.
So, all that crap about how many toilets you have, etc., I just disregard all that.
So, all that crap about how many toilets you have, etc., I just disregard all that.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:50 pm to starsandstripes
quote:
Unconstitutional. Falls outside the scope of the census.
Dude. It’s a hypothetical. So let’s suppose that they did what they needed to do to make it happen.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:50 pm to AMS
quote:
No they don't...
Yes. They absolutely do. They did and they will. It's in Obamacare. PCPs HAVE to ask. Are required to.
Don't believe it if you don't want to. Doesn't make it not true.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:51 pm to thetigerman
quote:
Dude. It’s a hypothetical. So let’s suppose that they did what they needed to do to make it happen.
You mean they took a crap on the Constitution? For which answer are you fishing?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:51 pm to Ace Midnight
I like your reply Ace, because it underlies the whole issue. If you don’t want to answer the question, then DON’T! There’s no law that says you HAVE to answer every question in a census!
And (Wait for it!) that’s why I don’t really have a problem with the question being included. It’s not like everyone HAS to answer it.
And (Wait for it!) that’s why I don’t really have a problem with the question being included. It’s not like everyone HAS to answer it.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:52 pm to OleManDixon
Great discussion Dixon. Very illuminating. This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:23 pm to thetigerman
quote:
I like your reply Ace, because it underlies the whole issue. If you don’t want to answer the question, then DON’T! There’s no law that says you HAVE to answer every question in a census! And (Wait for it!) that’s why I don’t really have a problem with the question being included. It’s not like everyone HAS to answer it.
Ah, I guess this was the answer for which you were fishing.
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