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re: CBO doing their best to get rid of our President

Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:35 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:35 am to
You need an exact number to be satisfied?

Weirdo
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:38 am to
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You need an exact number to be satisfied?

you're definitely amongst the ranks of those shitting on CBO here, but want to be able to give yourself margins of error that big?

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73338 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:39 am to
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Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:41 am to
don't be a baby. the same level of specificity provided by the group you disparage is good enough
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48188 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:45 am to
Yikes. You don’t think the CBO is consistently inaccurate. Clearly you just ignore what you don’t Ike to hear. You do realize they have a very good reason for being inaccurate, right? It doesn’t change the fact they are inaccurate.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:55 am to
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You do realize they have a very good reason for being inaccurate, right? It doesn’t change the fact they are inaccurate.

They are required to answer questions in very specific ways, although their answers are often used to answer questions that are different than what they are actually asked, it's true. And their exact answers often come in a form that isn't useful for those doing the using.

But who are they inaccurate relative to? Can you say anyone at all? If so, I'd agree maybe it's fair to call them inaccurate, maybe even "wildly" so, as you do.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:06 am to
Anyone who would believe ANYTHING the CBO says is an idiot.

How many times do they have to be completely wrong about costs before we all just say "shut up already?"
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48188 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:13 am to
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who are they inaccurate relative to?
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Depends upon which forecast you want to consider.
And while you are correct about how they answer questions, often they are also united in what data they can use. Which leads to their inaccuracies
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:14 am to
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But who are they inaccurate relative to? Can you say anyone at all? If so, I'd agree maybe it's fair to call them inaccurate, maybe even "wildly" so, as you do.

You keep saying they are accurate, fine. Is that your opinion or can you back that up?

And it doesn't matter what you, me, or other posters predict. None of you are tasked with helping Congress come up with a budget. The CBO is.

The accuracy of the posters here is not important.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:31 am to
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Depends upon which forecast you want to consider.

well let's consider some that back up your claims of wild inaccuracy
quote:

while you are correct about how they answer questions, often they are also united in what data they can use. Which leads to their inaccuracies

you mean which assumptions they can use? well, the question they are assessing is the question they are assessing. if you're going to judge their accuracy, you have to judge them on how they answer the question they are asked

unless you want to use them as a pinata for partisan purposes, of course, instead of a high-quality decision aid for legislators
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:35 am to
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Is that your opinion or can you back that up?

i can back it up quite easily, by noting the deafening silence every time i ask to be shown a better track record
quote:

The accuracy of the posters here is not important.


claims of "accuracy" are meaningless without a benchmark. my meta-point here is that no one ever wants to provide one while disparaging the group's work. and they don't have to provide their own prediction; they could just show someone else's that we should rely on instead
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:36 am to
What are these projections based off of?
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:58 am to
We were told under Obama that the new normal is 1% to 2% growth so not sure what the issue is?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:00 am to
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How in the heck could anyone project growth that far into the future?
It was on Fox News...it's the gospel.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:07 am to
It'll go up



Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15362 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:12 am to
The next time the CBO gets something right I think will be the first time in my life they’ve gotten anything right
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:30 am to
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i can back it up quite easily, by noting the deafening silence every time i ask to be shown a better track record


Your answer backs up nothing.

CBO has a track record. That's the question. How accurate are they?

Whether some are better or some are worse makes no difference. That's what was quoted on the OP
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:48 am to
more people telling 90 the same thing. you people don't get it. 90 isn't capable of acknowledging that he's wrong. you're wasting your time

quote:

i can back it up quite easily, by noting the deafening silence every time i ask to be shown a better track record
you mean like in this thread?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:52 am to
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Your answer backs up nothing.

it most certainly does back up everything i've said, which you might note doesn't include arbitrary claims about accuracy, other than me denying that they are "consistently wildly inaccurate".

you attempt to pin me on some measure of accuracy which you have not provided. in fact none of you have provided any at all. i offer the basis of the consistent performance of any comparable group. if you don't like that measure because you can't find anything comparable, suggest an alternative basis that you believe is fair. what basis would you like to see instead?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 12:03 pm to
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i offer the basis of the consistent performance of any comparable group

quote:

none of you have provided any at all.


It's laughable. Because their inaccuracy causes us to not take the CBO seriously then it's because we don't understand that no entity like the CBO is accurate? OK, fine

You really are Comic Book Guy, aren't you?

This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 12:04 pm
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