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re: Carter Page FISA Documents Released (Heavily Redacted)
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:24 pm to PanhandleTigah
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:24 pm to PanhandleTigah
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The sources and methods are the problem...they’re corrupt!! Fake sources and illegal methods can’t see the light of day. When they are exposed it’s over.
This x infinity. Secret courts granting warrants should never be allowed.
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:25 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:This is so damned true! And they had some hearing on the FISA court months ago--(no one paid it any mind-why I don't know...) and kept the beast going under nat sec concerns.
Ron Paul got called a lunatic by most Republicans in 2008 and 2012 when he called for the complete abolition of the NSA and FISA Court. He was correct then and he is correct now. A secret court authorizing clandestine domestic surveillance on its citizens has no place in a society that calls itself the "Land of the Free". And yet Republicans still by and large vote to give the NSA more and more power.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:25 pm to JuiceTerry
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I'm Q
I need to speak to you.
richiowadouchenozzle@freedomandcivilliberty.com
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:35 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Actually, there was a bill to re-up the fisa court
And they had some hearing on the FISA court months ago--(no one paid it any mind-why I don't know...) and kept the beast going under nat sec concerns.
Now ask me who sponsored it
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:36 pm to JuiceTerry
Uniparty unfortunately.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:38 pm to Iowa Golfer
Incorrect.. Well, according to the actual sponsor, at least
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:39 pm to JuiceTerry
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Now ask me who sponsored it
My guess is Nunes
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:40 pm to SCLibertarian
Show him what he's won, Bob!
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:42 pm to JuiceTerry
HIC also did this when led by Democrats.
But the takeaway is who had concerns about this bill. Who did?
LINK
Probably need FISA is some frm, but to me it obviously needs some sort of real oversight.
See, I don't always agree with Nunes.
But the takeaway is who had concerns about this bill. Who did?
LINK
Probably need FISA is some frm, but to me it obviously needs some sort of real oversight.
See, I don't always agree with Nunes.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:47 pm to JuiceTerry
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Carter Page practically announced that he was working with Russian intel
Were you aware that Carter Page was an FBI informant in the prosecution of 2 Russian spies? He infiltrated their network and worked with the FBI for several years. He was on the FBI payroll as late as spring 2016.
How he can go from paid FBI informant to "Russian spy" in a matter of weeks is beyond comprehension.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:50 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:That's cool, neither does he
See, I don't always agree with Nunes.
There was actually a bill that had some checks on fisa in it, but obviously that was shot down. Nunes bill apparently made it even worse, believe it or not. Here's an article: LINK
quote:
On Thursday, Congress voted down an effort to reform Section 702, and instead passed a bill that expanded warrantless surveillance of US citizens and foreigners.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:51 pm to IllegalPete
It's almost like someone made it all up. But it's reality.
Amerika! Land of the "Free."
Amerika! Land of the "Free."
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:53 pm to JuiceTerry
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Well, according to the actual sponsor, at least
You really think Republicans are going to get rid of FISA before they can use it to spy on the Dems.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:57 pm to JuiceTerry
I have read the opposite of your linked story.
No one probably really knows, unless they pick the authorization apart, and I haven't, nor am I going to.
Something is going to need to be done. I don't think the Russian thing is nothing. I won't touch DJT, and it is overblown, but it isn't nothing. The intelligence spying on another campaign under false pretenses however is something. Under reported. Not yet fully developed. But it looks like there will be more there, there, than there will be in the Russian thing.
No one probably really knows, unless they pick the authorization apart, and I haven't, nor am I going to.
Something is going to need to be done. I don't think the Russian thing is nothing. I won't touch DJT, and it is overblown, but it isn't nothing. The intelligence spying on another campaign under false pretenses however is something. Under reported. Not yet fully developed. But it looks like there will be more there, there, than there will be in the Russian thing.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:01 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:12 pm to cajunangelle
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And the Yahoo article wasn't just about Page, they were citing a story about Trump "changing the GOP platform to be nicer to Russia." It's BULL shite that has been debunked endlessly. And yet here it is in a FISA warrant.
Debunked by who?
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:13 pm to texridder
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texridder
Have you read the FISA warrant, yet??
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:18 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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info provided by the Dept. of State.
You can't make this shite up.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:19 pm to themunch
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You can't make this shite up.
Unless you're the FBI
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