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re: Carolyne Cass is named as victim in Mueller assault (updated with details)

Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:25 pm to
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So...just to be clear...we don’t have to believe accusers? Right?


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Your response is idiotic, unless one realizes that you are not responding to his post, but rather you are just setting the stage for a later gotcha you'll try to use.






Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:45 pm to
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How many times will y'all fall for this garbage from Burkman and that 9 year old? The kid went so far as to fake linkedin profiles for pretend employees of Surefire Intelligence. So Surefire, they couldn't spell her name. Or stop from contradicting each other.


I’m guessing you haven’t read through this thread. No one has “fallen” for anything. We are just pointing out that Cass has more details and meat to her case (if corroborated) than Ford. Doesn’t mean we believe either one.
Posted by JoBoo
Ethiopian-American
Member since Jul 2005
5075 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:47 pm to
That presser was so laughably stupid.. Jury duty, misspellings of names, dipshit lawyers fly was undone, Surefire voicemail forwarded to Doogie's mom's number, etc..

Not to mention, the "victim" no shows.

I'm all for believing women. So, where is she? All we have is two bumbling idiots correcting there earlier bullshite lies..
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:49 pm to
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two bumbling idiots correcting there


never fails
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25525 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:50 pm to
Still no big media coverage. Hmmmmm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:55 pm to
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I'm all for believing women. So, where is she?


You're a misogynist. If it was up to you, all women would still be barefoot and pregnant.

Believe Women!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:58 pm to
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I’m guessing you haven’t read through this thread. No one has “fallen” for anything. We are just pointing out that Cass has more details and meat to her case (if corroborated) than Ford. Doesn’t mean we believe either one.
And Swetnick actually had more details than Ford's, and I think that was far more likely to be a lie than Ford's. In fact, the most detailed accusation was that guy who made up (and admitted it was a lie) the claim about being raped on a boat.

The level of detail is very important when determining the guilt/innocence of a plausible accusation; HOWEVER, since a straight up lie has no limitation of truth, then the amount of details has no bounds since the fallibility of memory is not an issue, and only one's creative ability to lie would limit it.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:00 pm to
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far more likely to be a lie than Ford's.



Why? Please elaborate.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:02 pm to
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BELIEVE SURVIVORS




The Russians made him do it
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:03 pm to
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Still no big media coverage. Hmmmmm
Kind of like when James O'Keefe sent that woman who worked for Project Veritas to the Washington Post to make up a claim that she was raped by Roy Moore, and the little media coverage that existed, was due to Washington Post reporting that a Project Veritas employee had made up a claim that she was raped by Roy Moore.

And like that story, the liar (Wohl) is a bigger story than the lie itself, but that's not even that big of a story since he was some random writer the The Gateway Pundit and they've already suspended him from work.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:16 pm to
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Why? Please elaborate.
1 Well this week there was a major story about NBC not reporting information that directly contradicted the Swetnick story.

2. The story came out (by a attention-seeking, loser lawyer), after Ford's claim, and seems to be a greater likelihood of fabrication after an initial claim.

3. Her story was ridiculously implausible, as it required mass drugging and gang rapes, which she knew about and continued to attend parties where it was happening, and decided to drink the punch she knew was drugged before she was allegedly "assaulted" by someone. So those alleged behaviors are far more implausible and far less likely to just come up 30 plus years later then what Ford alleged, regardless of the accused.

I do not believe Kav assaulted Ford, but even then, it's not clear that she straight up lied, whether because she misremembered the details of that night, mistook someone else for Kav, or as has happened before, it was just a straight up false memory that stemmed from her therapy session. It could very well be a lie, but it's not near as obvious as Swetnick's.

And I think it makes sense that people are less likely to think she's lying due to the lack of details and memory issues; however, I think they are wrong when they ignore those issues when determining the level of guilt from the few details she recalls.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:26 pm to
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However... you the left is going to preach and demand a standard, then by God LIVE BY THAT STANDARD and stop bitching when you are faced with the same standard.


Read my post history, JJDOC. Not a lib.

But you fell harder for Burkman's crap in the Seth Rich story this summer than anyone else. So not surprising that you'd get so butthurt.
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:33 pm to
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I’m guessing you haven’t read through this thread. No one has “fallen” for anything.


Oh. You mean like when you said

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Twitter people making fun of Wohl have went suspiciously more quiet.


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FWIW they claim she will come forward in the near future. She was up all night vomiting and was scared for her life. Literally shaking.


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We have an exact hotel, exact date, and a friend that has already corroborated her claim.


Except you don't. You don't have anything except from two jackasses. No accuser, no witnesses. You're told that.

It's ok that you got snookered when you started this thread. But don't act like you didn't fall for it.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:39 pm to
I would surmise that your nonresponse means you don't have one.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Except you don't. You don't have anything except from two jackasses. No accuser, no witnesses. You're told that.

It's ok that you got snookered when you started this thread. But don't act like you didn't fall for it.



It’s amazing that you guys still don’t see the reason for this thread. Zero sense of humor. When I said “literally shaking”, did you think I was actually shaking? My god man. No one is vested in Jacob Wohl. You must be a blast at parties.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85651 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:56 pm to
Except me. I really do have a good name around here and I take great pride in that.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:06 pm to
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When I said “literally shaking”, did you think I was actually shaking?


It's ok that you were taken by these guys. I'm sure it won't be the last time.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:07 pm to
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It's ok that you were taken by these guys. I'm sure it won't be the last time.



Trololololol
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68823 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:09 pm to

Surefire has such a great track record.
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