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Card yet to be played (but certainly will be): GHG emissions

Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:45 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:45 am
Was perusing oil price stories and noticed some articles on the dramatic drop in emissions with everything shut down. "No shite, Sherlock" comments aside, the graphics and measurements are indeed dramatic.



Expect this period to be the example case for environmentalists when they make their case that a more aggressive plan to reduce GHG's can produce results quickly.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94780 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:47 am to
Ok, we can cut GHG emissions by cutting demand for that transportation and those products.


We can either abandon greenies in the Amazon to survive on twigs and berries or they can hit the easy button and kill themselves.
Posted by Ton Chou
On the Levee
Member since Feb 2010
757 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:51 am to
As a right leaning conservative, I’ve often wondered why work from home hadn’t yet become more of a mandate to reduce traffic congestion, avoid costly infrastructure expansion, etc. reducing emissions and conserving oil is an added benefit.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:54 am to
quote:

As a right leaning conservative, I’ve often wondered why work from home hadn’t yet become more of a mandate to reduce traffic congestion, avoid costly infrastructure expansion, etc. reducing emissions and conserving oil is an added benefit.

Hopefully this will be a permanent bi product of this virus, allowing more people to work from home or at least hybrid a few days a week.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Expect this period to be the example case for environmentalists when they make their case that a more aggressive plan to reduce GHG's can produce results quickly.


I was gonna make this thread but I couldnt be fricked

basically, we are seeing dramatic decreases in emissions and pollution, we just had to shut down the entire world and economy to do that

remember this is what AGW want. what we are seeing right now economically is what we would see if AGW activists got their way.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94780 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:54 am to
If “work from home” were more universal, cities like NYC and states like NY would lose a ton of tax revenue.


Income is taxes where you earn it and being able to telecommute cuts into certain states where people work but live elsewhere.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32196 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:57 am to
Not sure where to look but I saw a similar graphic a month or so ago when Wuhan was on lock down. It had pre and post lock down images side by side. Pretty impressive difference. But of course, the climate screamers leave out China and India and want us to fix all that's broken.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48247 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:58 am to
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Expect this period to be the example case for environmentalists


Let's just be honest and call a pot and kettle a spade. LEFTISTS will be making this argument. The "Green" movement was created by the Left to suppress the industry of Western Civilization.
Posted by MexicanTiger97
Member since May 2018
998 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:03 am to
quote:

As a right leaning conservative, I’ve often wondered why work from home hadn’t yet become more of a mandate to reduce traffic congestion, avoid costly infrastructure expansion, etc. reducing emissions and conserving oil is an added benefit.


It is not quite that simple. What percentage of the workforce do you think could effectively work from home? Doctors, nurses, dentists, teachers, fast food workers, grocery store workers, construction workers, bankers, hair stylists, etc. There are over 30 million small businesses in this country where that would likely not be feasible at all.
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1677 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:39 am to
I work in IT at a company with a very conservative culture and work from home has never been allowed for the rank and file.

We have all been working from home during this period and in our last company wide conference call, the CEO said that he was now open to work from home on a go forward basis.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:41 am to
what the heck is in the northern part of Italy that looks like bloody show?
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
3060 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:00 am to
quote:

what the heck is in the northern part of Italy that looks like bloody show?

It's labeled on the map - Milan. The metro is the largest in Italy and it is the heart of their economy.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:03 am to
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As a right leaning conservative


quote:

mandate


Those don't go together but I want the same result.

I am more productive at home because I can stop in midafternoon if sleepy and start at 5 AM if I am wide awake and don't have to worry about staying awake in midafternoon.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:15 am to
thanks. this screen didn't allow me in close enough to see a label.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:42 am to
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It's labeled on the map - Milan. The metro is the largest in Italy and it is the heart of their economy.


Not just that. That area of Italy shares the same problem as Mexico City, Los Angeles, and Beijing.

Big cities with lots of cars and/or industry, nestled up to mountains that trap GHG's because prevailing winds push across them to the mountains and hold the gases there. (Mexico City is more of a bowl, but same problem.)

I had been in Beijing maybe a dozen times before I was there right after a big storm that rinsed the air. First time I realized that the mountains where the Great Wall runs are visible from the city.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:48 am to
you know when there was even less GHG? the midieval times. lets just go back to those days.

Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5559 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

As a right leaning conservative, I’ve often wondered why work from home hadn’t yet become more of a mandate to reduce traffic congestion, avoid costly infrastructure expansion, etc. reducing emissions and conserving oil is an added benefit.

ok. i'm also very conservative and hate the current progressive liberal myth about global warming.

but the idea of working from home which checks many "carbon footprint" issues by the left sounds great.
i think if people do this then they should be allowed to claim it on their taxes.
we should be compensated.

lord knows the government always finds a way to add another tax for living and breathing air in a free country.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:58 pm to
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Ag Zwin


So, they actually disappear just by shutting the world down for 1 month...

Then there's no problem...it doesn't compile
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:02 pm to
quote:


but the idea of working from home which checks many "carbon footprint" issues by the left sounds great.
i think if people do this then they should be allowed to claim it on their taxes.
we should be compensated.

lord knows the government always finds a way to add another tax for living and breathing air in a free country


I think it's a natural progression for many...uh...relatively useless occupations of managerial nature or of systems maintenance

And I'm for less taxes everywhere, but incentives for specific behaviors have strange unforeseen consequences...

Suddenly McDonalds is home, etc.
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