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re: Capital Police Officer that was at the capital on 1/6 commits suicide.

Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:30 pm to
Here is the difference. The woman shot was in a restricted area of the Capitol. She was shot by secret service, not police. She didn't know it, but she crossed the defensive line when she climbed through the window. She would most likely be alive today had the VP not been in the Capitol. The other stuff with Kavanaugh, those people were in a less secure area, the VP was not in the Capitol and Congress was not in live session. Not trying to take a side on this, it's just what it is. If you think about it, it makes the most sense.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Totally non-violent Trump supporter "protesters" and "patriots" beating a policeman to death with Trump flags. Please feel welcome to continue defending that murder.

And if your defense is some Antifa conspiracy, please get lost.


I don’t have Reddit, so I can’t watch.

But I will ask that you liberal filth be consistent here, and acknowledge that there is a track record that clearly distinguishes which party is more likely to attack cops. Here’s a clue, it’s probably not the ones who oppose defunding the police you dense tard.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12695 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:31 pm to
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She had a knife, gun, or was grabbing at something like we’ve seen so many thugs do?

I don’t think it was the Secret Service that shot the girl, just because all of the information I’ve seen says it was Capitol Police and it seems like that detail would have been corrected by now if false.

That being said, if you think that someone has to be visibly reaching for a weapon for the Secret Service to take a shot. Secret Service agents (excluding the financial crimes arm) are there for protection, not traditional law enforcement. In fact, the Secret Service was widely (and rightfully IMO) criticized for not shooting a White House intruder dead in 2014. We aren’t talking about a city cop at a traffic stop. We are talking about federal agents assigned to protect the President and Vice President of the United States.

Fun fact: the US Secret Service is one of the only (if not the only) federal agency that is allowed to use firearms to disable a moving vehicle without it being considered “lethal force.”
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:31 pm to
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She didn't know it, but she crossed the defensive line when she climbed through the window.
It was a barricaded door and they had to break and climb through a window to get through. Not hard to see that as a defensive line.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88720 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:32 pm to
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I'm not sure what you're talking about, so I won't comment on that.


You libs have no fricking shame with your hypocrisy and double standards.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:33 pm to
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You libs have no fricking shame with your hypocrisy and double standards.
I literally have no idea what he's referring to. All he did was post a picture of a few people, none of whom I can identify.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3915 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:34 pm to
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This board is becoming unreadable because of the crazy posts here.


For realz.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88720 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:34 pm to
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I literally have no idea what he's referring to.


Take two seconds to Google it, then shut up.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Here is the difference. The woman shot was in a restricted area of the Capitol. She was shot by secret service, not police. She didn't know it, but she crossed the defensive line when she climbed through the window.


So she was never given a warning? And that’s justifiable? lol
So she was killed when she didn’t know she was in danger at all. That makes complete sense..

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The other stuff with Kavanaugh, those people were in a less secure area, the VP was not in the Capitol and Congress was not in live session.


Show me where it says that the elevators in the innermost workings of the capital that connect to the tunnels are less secure. They had him cornered.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:35 pm to
Yes, but think about the state of mind she was in. She clearly didn't think she would be shot. It's hard to see in that picture, but the shooter looks to be in a suit. Not many police officers are wearing a suit.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14984 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:35 pm to
Terrible.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
5154 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:36 pm to
Well you can always just go to CNN to get the facts.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:36 pm to
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I literally have no idea what he's referring to. All he did was post a picture of a few people, none of whom I can identify.



Again you claim ignorance. Even though I’ve shown you a picture and described the events in said picture. You’re claiming ignorance as some defense, but it doesn’t work.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:38 pm to
She most likely was warned several times. there were at least three policeman with her before they headed down the stairs. They knew what was coming to those people by entering that hallway. As for the other, if the President or VP are in the building, it presents a different security detail.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:38 pm to
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It was a barricaded door and they had to break and climb through a window to get through. Not hard to see that as a defensive line.


So the people who were in the capital elevator harassing Flake were also deserving of deadly force?

There is no way in hell you can possibly not see the hypocrisy here. Nor can you legitimately justify this murder.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Nor can you legitimately justify this murder.
Her getting shot was the most easily justifiable thing that happened that day. It's incredible that 10+ weren't shot.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:40 pm to
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She most likely was warned several times.


This is speculation. We don’t know this. What we do know is that she had nothing that would demonstrate she was a threat. Yet was shot dead. No attempt at restraining. Just lethal force.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
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This is speculation. We don’t know this
Then you can't say she wasn't warned.
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No attempt at restraining. Just lethal force
Not much time to restrain her when dozens are going to follow her through the window.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
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Her getting shot was the most easily justifiable thing that happened that day. It's incredible that 10+ weren't shot.



So you agree that the girls who cornered Jeff flake also deserved to be shot?

And all of the antifa members who destroyed people’s lives and property?

Right?
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:41 pm to

Terrible news.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 5:15 pm
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