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re: Canadian baby 'first without gender designation' on health card

Posted on 7/3/17 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 3:58 pm to
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I'm totally okay with that. Would it be okay with you if we prevented all people from nations who reject "white" culture from coming to the US?


No, but why would they have to reject "white" culture when a large portion of AMERICAN culture is mixture of European, native, and African cultures? you could make an argument that black Americans have been the greatest contributors to progressive American culture.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:00 pm to
This is me LOLing you in two threads.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:00 pm to
Sex such as XX or XXY or XXY is objective. Man and Woman is not. We just ascribed them due to convenience.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111718 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Sex such as XX or XXY or XXY is objective. Man and Woman is not. We just ascribed them due to convenience.


Now you're making some odd linguistic argument. We could've called men "burples" and women "smorphus." The idea behind the names wouldn't change.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135129 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:12 pm to
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We're acting like our way of life is the only way and the most right way.

Our way is the most successful way. It's not even an argument, it's a fact.

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It's so pompous, false, arrogant and asinine.
This has no effect on our lives unless people living free somehow makes people feel insecure about themselves and their groups standing in the world

That's total bullshite. These people are attempting to make this a normality in society and will soon be creating legislation that will force people to accept it by use of force.

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Less govt regulations! Stop telling us what genders we can be! Less govt!


Once again, this type gender nonsense will absolutely lead to 1000% more government, guaranteed.

All this nonsense isn't based on any sort of fact, science, or even logic, but idiots like you lap it up because you only operate in a world of emotion like the child that you are.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:15 pm to
No I'm not.

Male : XX
Female : XY

Can't change that. That's genetic.

"Be a man, act like a man" etc are characteristics we ascribe to men, but are not characteristics were are innately born with. That's just us projecting our perception of norms (made up for social convenience and order) onto biological entities.

There is nothing about having two X chromosomes that says I was born not to wear a dress. I could where I dress if I wanted to and that won't change my chromosomes. I'll be acting like a "woman" but I'll never be a female, because I can't ever becoming a XX human being.

Its pretty simple
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:19 pm to
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The family's lawyer, barbara findlay, who chooses to spell her name without capital letters


Strangely, I find this to be the most bizarre thing in the article.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135129 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Its pretty simple

When you have to create the justifying pseudoscience after you create your movement, you know the whole thing is 100% driveling fantasy.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Our way is the most successful way. It's not even an argument, it's a fact.


By your Standards, yes; you know not every culture in this earth lives by our standards. So domineering. Can fully self autonomous people make their own standards for success, especially in their isolated communities?

1% of the population is making a lot of people feel real insecure. That's so pathetic. That will never be the way of life around here. Trans folks make up less than 1% of the pop. Get over it.

Emotions ? I just gave you facts, biological
And social but you can't accept the truth.

No emotons here
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135129 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:24 pm to
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By your Standards, yes; you know not every culture in this earth lives by our standards.

Yes, they live far below our standards. That's why Western society is the greatest in the history of the planet.
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Can fully self autonomous people make their own standards for success, especially in their isolated communities?

Yes. But in this case they don't want those values to remain there. They want to force everyone to agree with their tiny little fantasy island.
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1% of the population is making a lot of people feel real insecure. That's so pathetic. That will never be the way of life around here. Trans folks make up less than 1% of the pop. Get over it.

You want the abnormal 1% of population to call the shots for the rest of the 99%. That's what's pathetic.

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Emotions ? I just gave you facts, biological
And social but you can't accept the truth.

No emotons here



You gave me some fringe examples that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. So you lose again, kiddo.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111718 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:24 pm to
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Be a man, act like a man" etc are characteristics we ascribe to men, but are not characteristics were are innately born with. That's just us projecting our perception of norms (made up for social convenience and order) onto biological entitie


This is where your argument falls into disarray. There are qualities that are generally true of men as a group. The same applies to women.

If a person doesn't fit into the nice neat category of "masculine" or "feminine" they are free to work outside those limiting boundaries. They aren't free to ask me to conform my reality to theirs.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18859 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:26 pm to
While I'm not personally affected by this, I feel for that poor kid.

Normally I think people can do what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. That kid is going to be F'd up.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:28 pm to
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So you do believe in White Supremacy?


I do believe the white race has done more to create the modern world than any other race.

However, I can understand why back in the 1860s white people thought the white race was superior to the red and black races.

While the white race was enjoying Shakespeare and Rembrandt the black race was running around naked in the jungle, living in mud huts and shitting in holes in the ground and the red race was running around in loin cloths, living in teepees and shitting in the woods.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135129 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:29 pm to
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They aren't free to ask me to conform my reality to theirs.

This is what every single one of these issues devolves into - legislation that forces people to conform at the end of a gun.

I know there are a few Christian bakers that agree with me.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21988 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:29 pm to
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I think Toddy is either non binary or gender fluid. I forget which one.


Niether. Just another pole smoker
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21988 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:34 pm to
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red and black races.


There is no red race. The American Indian is of ASIAN decent.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27731 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Less govt regulations! Stop telling us what genders we can be! Less govt!



StrongSafety

I've heard rumors about you on this board, but man you're just completely missing it.


I love how you can be different genders, but you can't be different races.

You know what... I think I got something here.

I'm 25 now, got a longterm relationship going, kids could be coming... how about this. I will let my kid decide what race he is... God I hope he picks Raptor Jesus.. I would be so proud.


And Edit... did you miss the part where she was trying to use the government branch to get this nonsense passed? Sometimes, less is more.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:44 pm to
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And to be quite frank, some of these cultures are so isolated from the rest of the world and are still self-sufficient and thriving.

So much for "white" culture; they don't need it, contrary to what you may believe.


I never said they needed white culture in order to survive.

However, no one can deny that the "quality of life" in the 21st century would be a lot lower if it wasn't for western civilization.

This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135129 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:44 pm to
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I love how you can be different genders, but you can't be different races.

This is what happens when you get swept up in nonsensical movements that have no foundation in legitimate, empirical, peer reviewed data.

None of these social movements that SS champions are based on anything other than emotion and he knows it. The scientific community doesn't even recognize these theories as valid.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:54 pm to
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red and black races.


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There is no red race. The American Indian is of ASIAN decent.


I thought American Indians said that they were always in North America.

How could American Indians be Asians if they have always been in North America?

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there aren't things the white race can learn from other races but American Indians would still be running around in loincloths, living in teepees and shitting in holes in the ground if it wasn't for the white race and western civilization.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 4:57 pm
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